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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Save soft-dirty bits on swapped pages
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:21:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrV5NojErxWOc2RpuYKE0g8FfOmKB31oDz46CRu27hmDBA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130724181516.GI8508@moon>

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:42:24AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >
>> > Lets just be clear about the problem first: the vmscan pass referred to
>> > above happens only on clean pages, so the soft dirty bit could only be
>> > set if the page was previously dirty and got written back.  Now it's an
>> > exercise for the reader whether we want to reinstantiate a cleaned
>> > evicted page for the purpose of doing an iterative migration or whether
>> > we want to flip the page in the migrated entity to be evicted (so if it
>> > gets referred to, it pulls in an up to date copy) ... assuming the
>> > backing file also gets transferred, of course.
>
> Good question! I rather forward it to Pavel as an author for soft dirty
> bit feature. Pavel?
>
>> I think I understand your distinction.  Nonetheless, given the loss of
>> the soft-dirty bit, the migration tool could fail to notice that the
>> pages was dirtied and subsequently cleaned and evicted.  I'm
>> unconvinced that doing this on a per-PTE basis is the right way,
>> though.
>
> I fear for tracking soft-dirty-bit for swapped entries we sinply have
> no other place than pte (still i'm quite open for ideas, maybe there
> are a better way which I've missed).

I know approximately nothing about how swap and anon_vma work.

For files, sticking it in struct page seems potentially nicer,
although finding a free bit might be tough.  (FWIW, I have plans to
free up a page flag on x86 some time moderately soon as part of a
completely unrelated project.)  I think this stuff really belongs to
the address_space more than it belongs to the pte.

How do you handle the write syscall?

--Andy

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-24 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-24 16:08 Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-24 16:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-07-24 16:37   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-24 17:06     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-07-24 17:17       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-24 17:36         ` James Bottomley
2013-07-24 17:42           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-07-24 18:15             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-24 18:21               ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2013-07-24 18:52                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-24 18:55                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-07-24 19:04                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-24 19:18                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-24 19:40                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-07-25  7:07                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-25  7:29                         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-07-25  8:26                           ` Hush Bensen
2013-07-25  8:43                             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-07-25 16:02                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-07-24 18:52   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-07-24 18:52 ` Pavel Emelyanov

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