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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	moritz.lipp@iaik.tugraz.at,
	Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at>,
	michael.schwarz@iaik.tugraz.at,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 21/23] x86, pcid, kaiser: allow flushing for future ASID switches
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 14:04:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrUecDLRTdQBERrzk4nuS-fGFg0USkWRXfRMGw1fxYRP7w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5bc39561-b65e-82fd-3218-d91a4d22613a@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On 11/01/2017 01:31 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2017 01:03 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>>> This ensures that any futuee context switches will do a full flush
>>>>> of the TLB so they pick up the changes.
>>>> I'm convuced.  What was wrong with the old code?  I guess I just don't
>>>> see what the problem is that is solved by this patch.
>>>
>>> Instead of flushing *now* with INVPCID, this lets us flush *later* with
>>> CR3.  It just hijacks the code that you already have that flushes CR3
>>> when loading a new ASID by making all ASIDs look new in the future.
>>>
>>> We have to load CR3 anyway, so we might as well just do this flush then.
>>
>> Would it make more sense to put it in flush_tlb_func_common() instead?
>>
>> Also, I don't understand what clear_non_loaded_ctxs() is trying to do.
>> It looks like it's invalidating all the other logical address spaces.
>> And I don't see why you want a all_other_ctxs_invalid variable.  Isn't
>> the goal to mark a single ASID as needing a *user* flush the next time
>> we switch to user mode using that ASID?  Your code seems like it's
>> going to flush a lot of *kernel* PCIDs.
>
> The point of the whole thing is to (relatively) efficiently flush
> *kernel* TLB entries in *other* address spaces.

Aha!  That wasn't at all clear to me from the changelog.  Can I make a
totally different suggestion?  Add a new function
__flush_tlb_one_kernel() and use it for kernel addresses.  That
function should just do __flush_tlb_all() if KAISER is on.  Then make
sure that there are no performance-critical looks that call
__flush_tlb_one_kernel() in KAISER mode.  The approach you're using is
quite expensive, and I suspect that just going a global flush may
actually be faster.  It's certainly a lot simpler.

Optionally add a warning to __flush_tlb_one() if the address is a
kernel address to help notice any missed conversions.  Or just rename
it to __flush_tlb_one_user().

--Andy

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-01 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-31 22:31 [PATCH 00/23] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace page tables Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:31 ` [PATCH 01/23] x86, kaiser: prepare assembly for entry/exit CR3 switching Dave Hansen
2017-11-01  0:43   ` Brian Gerst
2017-11-01  1:08     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 18:18   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-01 18:27     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 20:42       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-01 21:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 22:58     ` Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:31 ` [PATCH 02/23] x86, kaiser: do not set _PAGE_USER for init_mm page tables Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 21:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 21:24     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01 21:28       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 21:52         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 22:11           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 22:12           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-01 22:20             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 22:45               ` Kees Cook
2017-11-02  7:10               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-02 11:33                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-02 11:59                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-02 12:56                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-02 16:38                   ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-02 18:19                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-02 18:24                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-02 18:24                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-02 18:40                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-02 18:57                           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-02 21:41                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-02  7:07         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-02 11:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-31 22:31 ` [PATCH 03/23] x86, kaiser: disable global pages Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 21:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 22:12     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 22:28       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-31 22:31 ` [PATCH 04/23] x86, tlb: make CR4-based TLB flushes more robust Dave Hansen
2017-11-01  8:01   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01 10:11     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-01 10:38       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01 10:56         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-01 11:18           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01 22:21             ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 21:25   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 22:24     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 22:30       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-31 22:31 ` [PATCH 05/23] x86, mm: document X86_CR4_PGE toggling behavior Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 23:31   ` Kees Cook
2017-10-31 22:31 ` [PATCH 06/23] x86, kaiser: introduce user-mapped percpu areas Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 21:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-31 22:31 ` [PATCH 07/23] x86, kaiser: unmap kernel from userspace page tables (core patch) Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 08/23] x86, kaiser: only populate shadow page tables for userspace Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 23:35   ` Kees Cook
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 09/23] x86, kaiser: allow NX to be set in p4d/pgd Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 10/23] x86, kaiser: make sure static PGDs are 8k in size Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 11/23] x86, kaiser: map GDT into user page tables Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 12/23] x86, kaiser: map dynamically-allocated LDTs Dave Hansen
2017-11-01  8:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01  8:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 13/23] x86, kaiser: map espfix structures Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 14/23] x86, kaiser: map entry stack variables Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 15/23] x86, kaiser: map trace interrupt entry Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 16/23] x86, kaiser: map debug IDT tables Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 17/23] x86, kaiser: map virtually-addressed performance monitoring buffers Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 18/23] x86, mm: Move CR3 construction functions Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 19/23] x86, mm: remove hard-coded ASID limit checks Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 20/23] x86, mm: put mmu-to-h/w ASID translation in one place Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 21/23] x86, pcid, kaiser: allow flushing for future ASID switches Dave Hansen
2017-11-01  8:03   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01 14:17     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 20:31       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01 20:59         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 21:04           ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-11-01 21:06             ` Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 22/23] x86, kaiser: use PCID feature to make user and kernel switches faster Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 22:32 ` [PATCH 23/23] x86, kaiser: add Kconfig Dave Hansen
2017-10-31 23:59   ` Kees Cook
2017-11-01  9:07     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-10-31 23:27 ` [PATCH 00/23] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace page tables Linus Torvalds
2017-10-31 23:44   ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01  0:21     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01  7:59     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01 16:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-01 17:31       ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 17:58         ` Randy Dunlap
2017-11-01 18:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-01 18:46           ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 19:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-01 20:33               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-02  7:32                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-02  7:54                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-01 15:53   ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01  8:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-01 14:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 22:14   ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-01 22:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-02  8:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-03 11:07     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-02 19:01 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-02 19:38   ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-03 13:41     ` Will Deacon
2017-11-22 16:19 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-23 10:47   ` Pavel Machek

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