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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 26/34] mm: implement new mprotect_key() system call
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 17:45:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKgNAkiZHny4amNcamN+q6pxdanG9aMMA4H_pekA7+RDuoUvEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56684D3B.5050805@sr71.net>

Hi Dave,

On 9 December 2015 at 16:48, Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks for all the comments!  I'll fix most of it when I post a new
> version of the manpage, but I have a few general questions.
>
> On 12/09/2015 03:08 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>>
>>> +is the protection or storage key to assign to the memory.
>>
>> Why "protection or storage key" here? This phrasing seems a
>> little ambiguous to me, given that we also have a 'prot'
>> argument.  I think it would be clearer just to say
>> "protection key". But maybe I'm missing something.
>
> x86 calls it a "protection key" while powerpc calls it a "storage key".
>  They're called "protection keys" consistently inside the kernel.
>
> Should we just stick to one name in the manpages?

Yes. But perhaps you could note the alternate name in the pkey(7) page.

>> * A general overview of why this functionality is useful.
>
> Any preference on a central spot to do the general overview?  Does it go
> in one of the manpages I'm already modifying, or a new one?

How about we add one more page, pkey(7) that gives the overview and
also summarizes the APIs.

>> * A note on which architectures support/will support
>>   this functionality.
>
> x86 only for now.  We might get powerpc support down the road somewhere.

Supported architectures can be listed in pkey(7).

>> * Explanation of what a protection domain is.
>
> A protection domain is a unique view of memory and is represented by the
> value in the PKRU register.

Out something about this in pkey(7), but explain what you mean by a
"unique view of memory".

>> * Explanation of how a process (thread?) changes its
>>   protection domain.
>
> Changing protection domains is done by pkey_set() system call, or by
> using the WRPKRU instruction.  The system call is preferred and less
> error-prone since it enforces that a protection is allocated before its
> access protection can be modified.

Details (perhaps not the WRPKRU bit) that should go in pkey(7).

>> * Explanation of the relationship between page permission
>>   bits (PROT_READ/PROT_WRITE/PROTE_EXEC) and
>>   PKEY_DISABLE_ACCESS and PKEY_DISABLE_WRITE.
>>   It's still not clear to me. Do the PKEY_* bits
>>   override the PROT_* bits. Or, something else?
>
> Protection keys add access restrictions in addition to existing page
> permissions.  They can only take away access; they never grant
> additional access.

This belongs in pkey(7) :-).

Cheers,

Michael

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-09 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-04  1:14 [PATCH 00/34] x86: Memory Protection Keys (v5) Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 01/34] mm, gup: introduce concept of "foreign" get_user_pages() Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 02/34] x86, fpu: add placeholder for Processor Trace XSAVE state Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 03/34] x86, pkeys: Add Kconfig option Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 04/34] x86, pkeys: cpuid bit definition Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 05/34] x86, pkeys: define new CR4 bit Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 06/34] x86, pkeys: add PKRU xsave fields and data structure(s) Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 07/34] x86, pkeys: PTE bits for storing protection key Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 08/34] x86, pkeys: new page fault error code bit: PF_PK Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 09/34] x86, pkeys: store protection in high VMA flags Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 14:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 10/34] x86, pkeys: arch-specific protection bits Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 15:15   ` [PATCH 10/34] x86, pkeys: arch-specific protection bitsy Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-08 16:34     ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 17:24       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-08 18:06         ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:29           ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-08 18:35             ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 11/34] x86, pkeys: pass VMA down in to fault signal generation code Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 12/34] signals, pkeys: notify userspace about protection key faults Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 13/34] x86, pkeys: fill in pkey field in siginfo Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 14/34] x86, pkeys: add functions to fetch PKRU Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 15:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 15/34] mm: factor out VMA fault permission checking Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 17:26   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 16/34] x86, mm: simplify get_user_pages() PTE bit handling Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-08 18:30     ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 17/34] x86, pkeys: check VMAs and PTEs for protection keys Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 18/34] mm: add gup flag to indicate "foreign" mm access Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 19/34] x86, pkeys: optimize fault handling in access_error() Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:14   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 20/34] x86, pkeys: differentiate instruction fetches Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 21/34] x86, pkeys: dump PKRU with other kernel registers Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 22/34] x86, pkeys: dump PTE pkey in /proc/pid/smaps Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 23/34] x86, pkeys: add Kconfig prompt to existing config option Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:21   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 24/34] mm, multi-arch: pass a protection key in to calc_vm_flag_bits() Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:14 ` [PATCH 25/34] x86, pkeys: add arch_validate_pkey() Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:39   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 26/34] mm: implement new mprotect_key() system call Dave Hansen
2015-12-05  6:50   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-12-07 16:44     ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-09 11:08       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-12-09 15:48         ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-09 16:45           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2015-12-09 17:05             ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-11 20:13               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 27/34] x86, pkeys: make mprotect_key() mask off additional vm_flags Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 28/34] x86: wire up mprotect_key() system call Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-08 19:06     ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 20:38       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 29/34] x86: separate out LDT init from context init Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 30/34] x86, fpu: allow setting of XSAVE state Dave Hansen
2015-12-08 18:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 31/34] x86, pkeys: allocation/free syscalls Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 32/34] x86, pkeys: add pkey set/get syscalls Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 33/34] x86, pkeys: actually enable Memory Protection Keys in CPU Dave Hansen
2015-12-04  1:15 ` [PATCH 34/34] x86, pkeys: Documentation Dave Hansen
2015-12-04 23:31 ` [PATCH 00/34] x86: Memory Protection Keys (v5) Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-04 23:38   ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-11 20:16     ` Andy Lutomirski

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