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From: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
To: Takero Funaki <flintglass@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	 Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Domenico Cerasuolo <cerasuolodomenico@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] mm: zswap: global shrinker fix and proactive shrink
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 11:13:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKEwX=PhhAiZ_P6YmdsJrtrftuHwzjbR7Hn6n-3aaYD4mVdPYQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPpoddfNfrGjhHzQ4KURv2y_z-iyY8cTzG+7d2ooQFU5NcU80w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 1:20 AM Takero Funaki <flintglass@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2024年7月13日(土) 8:02 Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>:
>
> It was tested on an Azure VM with SSD-backed storage. The total IOPS
> was capped at 4K IOPS by the VM host. The max throughput of the global
> shrinker was around 16 MB/s. Proactive shrinking cannot prevent
> pool_limit_hit since memory allocation can be on the order of GB/s.
> (The benchmark script allocates 2 GB sequentially, which was
> compressed to 1.3 GB, while the zswap pool was limited to 200 MB.)

Hmmm I noticed that in a lot of other swap read/write paths (in
__read_swap_cache_async(), or in shrink_lruvec()), we are doing block
device plugging (blk_{start|finish}_plug()). The global shrinker path,
however, is currently not doing this - it's triggered in a workqueue,
separate from all these reclaim paths.

I wonder if there are any values to doing the same for zswap global
shrinker. We do acquire a mutex (which can sleep) for every page,
which can unplug, but IIUC we only sleep when the mutex is currently
held by another task, and the mutex is per-CPU. The compression
algorithm is usually non-sleeping as well (for e.g, zstd). So maybe
there could be improvement in throughput here?

(Btw - friendly reminder that everyone should use zsmalloc as the default :))

Anyway, I haven't really played with this, and I don't have the right
setup that mimics your use case. If you do decide to give this a shot,
let me know :)


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-26 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-06  2:25 Takero Funaki
2024-07-06  2:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] mm: zswap: fix global shrinker memcg iteration Takero Funaki
2024-07-08  4:54   ` Chengming Zhou
2024-07-17  1:54   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-06  2:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] mm: zswap: fix global shrinker error handling logic Takero Funaki
2024-07-17  2:39   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-06  2:25 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] mm: zswap: proactive shrinking before pool size limit is hit Takero Funaki
2024-07-12 23:18   ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-06  2:25 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] mm: zswap: make writeback run in the background Takero Funaki
2024-07-06  2:25 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] mm: zswap: store incompressible page as-is Takero Funaki
2024-07-06 23:53   ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-07  9:38     ` Takero Funaki
2024-07-12 22:36       ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-08  3:56   ` Chengming Zhou
2024-07-08 13:44     ` Takero Funaki
2024-07-09 13:26       ` Chengming Zhou
2024-07-12 22:47         ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-16  2:30           ` Chengming Zhou
2024-07-06  2:25 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] mm: zswap: interrupt shrinker writeback while pagein/out IO Takero Funaki
2024-07-08 19:17   ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-09  0:57   ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-10 21:21     ` Takero Funaki
2024-07-10 22:10       ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-15  7:33         ` Takero Funaki
2024-07-06 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] mm: zswap: global shrinker fix and proactive shrink Andrew Morton
2024-07-07 10:54   ` Takero Funaki
2024-07-09  0:53 ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-10 22:26   ` Takero Funaki
2024-07-12 23:02     ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-15  8:20       ` Takero Funaki
2024-07-26 18:13         ` Nhat Pham [this message]
2024-07-26 18:25           ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-17  2:53     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 17:49       ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-17 18:05         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 19:01           ` Nhat Pham
2024-07-19 14:55           ` Takero Funaki

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