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From: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	 Erhard Furtner <erhard_f@mailbox.org>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	 "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kswapd0: page allocation failure: order:0, mode:0x820(GFP_ATOMIC), nodemask=(null),cpuset=/,mems_allowed=0 (Kernel v6.5.9, 32bit ppc)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 10:40:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKEwX=OAEzKW9zO9pn41V71A8Ua2dJjD3DY6RsDMNdSd-4ts5w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240606054334.GD11718@google.com>

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 6:43 AM Sergey Senozhatsky
<senozhatsky@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> On (24/06/06 12:46), Chengming Zhou wrote:
> > >> Agree, I think we should try to improve locking scalability of zsmalloc.
> > >> I have some thoughts to share, no code or test data yet:
> > >>
> > >> 1. First, we can change the pool global lock to per-class lock, which
> > >>    is more fine-grained.
> > >
> > > Commit c0547d0b6a4b6 "zsmalloc: consolidate zs_pool's migrate_lock
> > > and size_class's locks" [1] claimed no significant difference
> > > between class->lock and pool->lock.
> >
> > Ok, I haven't looked into the history much, that seems preparation of trying
> > to introduce reclaim in the zsmalloc? Not sure. But now with the reclaim code
> > in zsmalloc has gone, should we change back to the per-class lock? Which is
>
> Well, the point that commit made was that Nhat (and Johannes?) were
> unable to detect any impact of pool->lock on a variety of cases.  So
> we went on with code simplification.

Yeah, we benchmarked it before zsmalloc writeback was introduced (the
patch to remove class lock was a prep patch of the series). We weren't
able to detect any regression at the time with just using a global
pool lock.

>
> > obviously more fine-grained than the pool lock. Actually, I have just done it,
> > will test to get some data later.
>
> Thanks, we'll need data on this.  I'm happy to take the patch, but
> jumping back and forth between class->lock and pool->lock merely
> "for obvious reasons" is not what I'm extremely excited about.

FWIW, I do think it'd be nice if we can make the locking more granular
- the pool lock now is essentially a global lock, and we're just
getting around that by replicating the (z)pools themselves.

Personally, I'm not super convinced about class locks. We're
essentially relying on the post-compression size of the data to
load-balance the queries - I can imagine a scenario where a workload
has a concentrated distribution of post-compression data (i.e its
pages are compressed to similar-ish sizes), and we're once again
contending for a (few) lock(s) again.

That said, I'll let the data tell the story :) We don't need a perfect
solution, just a good enough solution for now.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-07  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-08 18:21 Erhard Furtner
2024-05-15 20:45 ` Erhard Furtner
2024-05-15 22:06   ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-01  6:01     ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-01 15:37       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-06  3:11         ` Michael Ellerman
2024-06-06  3:38           ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-06 12:08             ` Michael Ellerman
2024-06-06 16:05               ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-02 18:03       ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-02 20:38         ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-02 21:36           ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-03 22:13         ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-03 23:24           ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]             ` <20240604134458.3ae4396a@yea>
2024-06-04 16:11               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-04 17:18                 ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-04 17:34                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-04 17:53                     ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-04 18:01                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-04 21:00                         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-06-04 21:10                         ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-05  3:03                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-05 23:04                             ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-05 23:41                               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-05 23:52                                 ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-05 23:58                                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 13:28                                     ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-06 16:42                                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06  2:49                                 ` Chengming Zhou
2024-06-06  4:31                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2024-06-06  4:46                                     ` Chengming Zhou
2024-06-06  5:43                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2024-06-06  5:55                                         ` Chengming Zhou
2024-06-07  9:40                                         ` Nhat Pham [this message]
2024-06-07 11:20                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2024-06-06  7:24                                 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-06-06 13:32                                   ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-06 16:53                                     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-06-06 17:14                                 ` Takero Funaki
2024-06-06 17:41                                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 17:55                                     ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-06 18:03                                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-04 22:17                   ` Erhard Furtner
2024-06-04 20:52             ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-06-04 20:55               ` Yosry Ahmed

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