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From: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
To: Mike Yuan <me@yhndnzj.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memcontrol: respect zswap.writeback setting from parent cg too
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 12:52:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKEwX=NrOBg0rKJnXGaiK9-PWeUDS+c3cFmaFFV0RrE8GkNZZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240814171800.23558-1-me@yhndnzj.com>

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 10:20 AM Mike Yuan <me@yhndnzj.com> wrote:
>
> Currently, the behavior of zswap.writeback wrt.
> the cgroup hierarchy seems a bit odd. Unlike zswap.max,
> it doesn't honor the value from parent cgroups. This
> surfaced when people tried to globally disable zswap writeback,
> i.e. reserve physical swap space only for hibernation [1] -
> disabling zswap.writeback only for the root cgroup results
> in subcgroups with zswap.writeback=1 still performing writeback.
>
> The consistency became more noticeable after I introduced
> the MemoryZSwapWriteback= systemd unit setting [2] for
> controlling the knob. The patch assumed that the kernel would
> enforce the value of parent cgroups. It could probably be
> workarounded from systemd's side, by going up the slice unit
> tree and inherit the value. Yet I think it's more sensible
> to make it behave consistently with zswap.max and friends.

May I ask you to add/clarify this new expected behavior in
Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst?

>
> [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_management/Suspend_and_hibernate#Disable_zswap_writeback_to_use_the_swap_space_only_for_hibernation

This is an interesting use case. Never envisioned this when I
developed this feature :)

> [2] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/31734
>
> Signed-off-by: Mike Yuan <me@yhndnzj.com>
> ---

Personally, I don't feel too strongly about this one way or another. I
guess you can make a case that people want to disable zswap writeback
by default, and only selectively enable it for certain descendant
workloads - for convenience, they would set memory.zswap.writeback ==
0 at root, then enable it on selected descendants?

It's not super expensive IMHO - we already perform upward traversal on
every zswap store. This wouldn't be the end of the world.

Yosry, Johannes - how do you two feel about this?

Code looks solid to me - I think the upward tree traversal should be
safe, as long as memcg is valid (since memcg holds reference to its
parent IIRC).


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-14 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-14 17:20 Mike Yuan
2024-08-14 19:52 ` Nhat Pham [this message]
2024-08-14 19:53   ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-15 18:39     ` Mike Yuan
2024-08-15 19:10       ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-16 13:25         ` Mike Yuan
2024-08-14 20:22   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-14 20:43     ` Mike Yuan
2024-08-15 19:12       ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-15 22:08         ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-15 22:10           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-15 23:31             ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-19 19:05               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-20  1:01                 ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-20  1:06                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-20 15:28                     ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-21 16:14     ` Michal Koutný
2024-08-22 17:49       ` Yosry Ahmed

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