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From: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
To: Qun-Wei Lin <qun-wei.lin@mediatek.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	 Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	 Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	 Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	 AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	 Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	 Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Dan Schatzberg <schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>,
	 Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	 nvdimm@lists.linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	 Casper Li <casper.li@mediatek.com>,
	Chinwen Chang <chinwen.chang@mediatek.com>,
	 Andrew Yang <andrew.yang@mediatek.com>,
	James Hsu <james.hsu@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Improve Zram by separating compression context from kswapd
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 15:03:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKEwX=NfKrisQL-DBcNxBwK2ErK-u=MSzHNpETcuWWNBh9s9Bg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250307120141.1566673-1-qun-wei.lin@mediatek.com>

On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 4:02 AM Qun-Wei Lin <qun-wei.lin@mediatek.com> wrote:
>
> This patch series introduces a new mechanism called kcompressd to
> improve the efficiency of memory reclaiming in the operating system. The
> main goal is to separate the tasks of page scanning and page compression
> into distinct processes or threads, thereby reducing the load on the
> kswapd thread and enhancing overall system performance under high memory
> pressure conditions.

Please excuse my ignorance, but from your cover letter I still don't
quite get what is the problem here? And how would decouple compression
and scanning help?

>
> Problem:
>  In the current system, the kswapd thread is responsible for both
>  scanning the LRU pages and compressing pages into the ZRAM. This
>  combined responsibility can lead to significant performance bottlenecks,

What bottleneck are we talking about? Is one stage slower than the other?

>  especially under high memory pressure. The kswapd thread becomes a
>  single point of contention, causing delays in memory reclaiming and
>  overall system performance degradation.
>
> Target:
>  The target of this invention is to improve the efficiency of memory
>  reclaiming. By separating the tasks of page scanning and page
>  compression into distinct processes or threads, the system can handle
>  memory pressure more effectively.

I'm not a zram maintainer, so I'm definitely not trying to stop this
patch. But whatever problem zram is facing will likely occur with
zswap too, so I'd like to learn more :)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-07 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-07 12:01 Qun-Wei Lin
2025-03-07 12:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Split BLK_FEAT_SYNCHRONOUS and SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO into separate read and write flags Qun-Wei Lin
2025-03-07 12:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] kcompressd: Add Kcompressd for accelerated zram compression Qun-Wei Lin
2025-03-07 19:41   ` Barry Song
2025-03-07 23:13     ` Nhat Pham
2025-03-07 23:14       ` Nhat Pham
2025-03-10 13:26         ` Qun-wei Lin (林群崴)
     [not found]       ` <20250309010541.3152-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2025-03-09 19:56         ` Nhat Pham
2025-03-09 20:44           ` Barry Song
2025-03-09 22:20             ` Nhat Pham
2025-03-10 13:23               ` Qun-wei Lin (林群崴)
     [not found]             ` <20250310103427.3216-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2025-03-10 17:44               ` Barry Song
     [not found]                 ` <20250310230902.3282-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2025-03-11  3:57                   ` Barry Song
2025-03-11  6:36                     ` Greg KH
2025-03-11  5:02       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-03-10 13:26     ` Qun-wei Lin (林群崴)
2025-03-11  7:05       ` Barry Song
2025-03-11  7:25         ` Barry Song
2025-03-11 14:33         ` Qun-wei Lin (林群崴)
2025-03-07 19:34 ` [PATCH 0/2] Improve Zram by separating compression context from kswapd Barry Song
2025-03-10 13:21   ` Qun-wei Lin (林群崴)
2025-03-07 23:03 ` Nhat Pham [this message]
2025-03-08  5:41   ` Barry Song
2025-03-10 13:22     ` Qun-wei Lin (林群崴)
2025-03-10 16:58       ` Nhat Pham
2025-03-10 17:30         ` Nhat Pham
2025-03-11  4:58     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-03-11  9:33       ` Barry Song
2025-03-11 14:12         ` Qun-wei Lin (林群崴)
2025-03-12  5:19           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-03-12 18:11 ` Minchan Kim
2025-03-13  3:09   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-03-13  3:45     ` Barry Song
2025-03-13 16:07       ` Minchan Kim
2025-03-13 16:58         ` Barry Song
2025-03-13 17:33           ` Minchan Kim
2025-03-13 20:37             ` Barry Song
2025-03-13  3:52     ` Barry Song
2025-03-13  9:30       ` Barry Song

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