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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: afzal mohammed <afzal.mohd.ma@gmail.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] lib: copy_{from,to}_user using gup & kmap_atomic()
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 22:07:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a25ffh_2Y1xKDbkL2xU9nLpGbEq7j6xHdODEwUtavgdwA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200612135538.GA13399@afzalpc>

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 3:55 PM afzal mohammed <afzal.mohd.ma@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 02:02:13PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:18 PM afzal mohammed <afzal.mohd.ma@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Roughly a one-third drop in performance. Disabling highmem improves
> > > performance only slightly.
>
> > There are probably some things that can be done to optimize it,
> > but I guess most of the overhead is from the page table operations
> > and cannot be avoided.
>
> Ingo's series did a follow_page() first, then as a fallback did it
> invoke get_user_pages(), i will try that way as well.

Right, that could help, in particular for the small copies. I think a lot
of usercopy calls are only for a few bytes, though this is of course
highly workload dependent and you might only care about the large
ones.

> Yes, i too feel get_user_pages_fast() path is the most time consuming,
> will instrument & check.
>
> > What was the exact 'dd' command you used, in particular the block size?
> > Note that by default, 'dd' will request 512 bytes at a time, so you usually
> > only access a single page. It would be interesting to see the overhead with
> > other typical or extreme block sizes, e.g. '1', '64', '4K', '64K' or '1M'.
>
> It was the default(512), more test results follows (in MB/s),
>
>                 512     1K      4K      16K     32K     64K     1M
>
> w/o series      30      46      89      95      90      85      65
>
> w/ series       22      36      72      79      78      75      61
>
> perf drop       26%     21%     19%     16%     13%     12%    6%
>
> Hmm, results ain't that bad :)

There is also still hope of optimizing small aligned copies like

set_ttbr0(user_ttbr);
ldm();
set_ttbr0(kernel_ttbr);
stm();

which could do e.g. 32 bytes at a time, but with more overhead
if you have to loop around it.

        Arnd


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-12 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-12 10:17 [RFC 0/3] ARM: copy_{from,to}_user() for vmsplit 4g/4g afzal mohammed
2020-06-12 10:17 ` [RFC 1/3] lib: copy_{from,to}_user using gup & kmap_atomic() afzal mohammed
2020-06-12 12:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-12 13:55     ` afzal mohammed
2020-06-12 20:07       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2020-06-13 12:04         ` afzal mohammed
2020-06-13 12:51           ` Al Viro
2020-06-13 12:56             ` Al Viro
2020-06-13 13:42               ` afzal mohammed
2020-06-13 15:31                 ` Al Viro
2020-06-13 15:41                   ` Al Viro
2020-06-13 16:00                     ` Al Viro
2020-06-13 18:55                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-13 13:15           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-14 13:06             ` afzal mohammed
2020-06-13 20:45           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-13 22:16             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-14 13:21             ` afzal mohammed
2020-06-14 14:55               ` afzal mohammed
2020-06-13 11:08   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-06-13 13:29     ` afzal mohammed
2020-06-12 10:18 ` [RFC 2/3] ARM: uaccess: let UACCESS_GUP_KMAP_MEMCPY enabling afzal mohammed
2020-06-12 10:18 ` [RFC 3/3] ARM: provide CONFIG_VMSPLIT_4G_DEV for development afzal mohammed
2020-06-12 15:19 ` [RFC 0/3] ARM: copy_{from,to}_user() for vmsplit 4g/4g Nicolas Pitre
2020-06-12 16:01   ` afzal mohammed
2020-06-12 16:03     ` afzal mohammed

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