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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	 "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Always sanity check anon_vma first for per-vma locks
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:42:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpHKAP6vP98VCYx+UVeHUkYZMkG+oksQBzUJk4myssUniQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zhb2BWntckP3ZhDc@casper.infradead.org>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 1:26 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 01:06:21PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > anon_vma is a tricky object in the context of per-vma lock, because it's
> > racy to modify it in that context and mmap lock is needed if it's not
> > stable yet.
>
> I object to this commit message.  First, it's not a "sanity check".  It's
> a check to see if we already have an anon VMA.  Second, it's not "racy
> to modify it" at all.  The problem is that we need to look at other
> VMAs, for which we do not hold the lock.
>
> > So the trivial side effect of such patch is:
> >
> >   - We may do slightly better on the first WRITE of a private file mapping,
> >   because we can retry earlier (in lock_vma_under_rcu(), rather than
> >   vmf_anon_prepare() later).
> >
> >   - We may always use mmap lock for the initial READs on a private file
> >   mappings, while before this patch it _can_ (only when no WRITE ever
> >   happened... but it doesn't make much sense for a MAP_PRIVATE..) do the
> >   read fault with per-vma lock.
>
> But that's a super common path!  Look at 'cat /proc/self/maps'.  All
> your program text (including libraries) is mapped PRIVATE, and never
> written to (except by ptrace, I guess).

Uh, indeed I didn't realize this would be the side-effect from this
early check. And that's exactly why I wanted Matthew's input on this
in [1].

>
> NAK this patch.
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-11 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-10 17:06 Peter Xu
2024-04-10 20:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]   ` <Zhb6B8UsidEEbFu3@x1n>
2024-04-10 21:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-10 21:23       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-10 23:59         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-11  0:20           ` Peter Xu
2024-04-11 14:50             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-11 15:34               ` Peter Xu
2024-04-11 17:14                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-11 15:42   ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2024-04-11 17:13 ` Liam R. Howlett
     [not found]   ` <ZhhSItiyLYBEdAX3@x1n>
2024-04-11 21:27     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-11 21:46       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-11 22:02         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12  3:14           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 12:38             ` Peter Xu
2024-04-12 13:06               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-12 14:16                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 14:53                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-12 15:19                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 15:31                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-13 21:46                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-13 22:52                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-13 23:11                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-13 21:41                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-13 22:46                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-15 15:58                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-15 16:13                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-15 16:19                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-15 16:26                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 12:46             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-12 13:32               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-12 13:46                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-26 14:00             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-26 15:07               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-26 15:28                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-26 15:32                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-26 15:50                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-04-26 15:32                 ` Liam R. Howlett

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