From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 11/17] mm: replace vm_lock and detached flag with a reference count
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:14:47 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpGu4UVXiBaivTVOGNBVVz3rhZ+VY27gT3_R0cTij5fTGw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gdipfy63r4wxiqlnglsjzatpej6jjswimuzadm2l57o2e45u56@qfd763n4ysft>
On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 3:24 AM Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 08:25:58PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>
> So there were quite a few iterations of the patch and I have not been
> reading majority of the feedback, so it may be I missed something,
> apologies upfront. :)
>
> > /*
> > * Try to read-lock a vma. The function is allowed to occasionally yield false
> > * locked result to avoid performance overhead, in which case we fall back to
> > @@ -710,6 +742,8 @@ static inline void vma_lock_init(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > */
> > static inline bool vma_start_read(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > {
> > + int oldcnt;
> > +
> > /*
> > * Check before locking. A race might cause false locked result.
> > * We can use READ_ONCE() for the mm_lock_seq here, and don't need
> > @@ -720,13 +754,19 @@ static inline bool vma_start_read(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > if (READ_ONCE(vma->vm_lock_seq) == READ_ONCE(vma->vm_mm->mm_lock_seq.sequence))
> > return false;
> >
> > - if (unlikely(down_read_trylock(&vma->vm_lock.lock) == 0))
> > + /*
> > + * If VMA_LOCK_OFFSET is set, __refcount_inc_not_zero_limited() will fail
> > + * because VMA_REF_LIMIT is less than VMA_LOCK_OFFSET.
> > + */
> > + if (unlikely(!__refcount_inc_not_zero_limited(&vma->vm_refcnt, &oldcnt,
> > + VMA_REF_LIMIT)))
> > return false;
> >
>
> Replacing down_read_trylock() with the new routine loses an acquire
> fence. That alone is not a problem, but see below.
Hmm. I think this acquire fence is actually necessary. We don't want
the later vm_lock_seq check to be reordered and happen before we take
the refcount. Otherwise this might happen:
reader writer
if (vm_lock_seq == mm_lock_seq) // check got reordered
return false;
vm_refcnt += VMA_LOCK_OFFSET
vm_lock_seq == mm_lock_seq
vm_refcnt -= VMA_LOCK_OFFSET
if (!__refcount_inc_not_zero_limited())
return false;
Both reader's checks will pass and the reader would read-lock a vma
that was write-locked.
>
> > + rwsem_acquire_read(&vma->vmlock_dep_map, 0, 1, _RET_IP_);
> > /*
> > - * Overflow might produce false locked result.
> > + * Overflow of vm_lock_seq/mm_lock_seq might produce false locked result.
> > * False unlocked result is impossible because we modify and check
> > - * vma->vm_lock_seq under vma->vm_lock protection and mm->mm_lock_seq
> > + * vma->vm_lock_seq under vma->vm_refcnt protection and mm->mm_lock_seq
> > * modification invalidates all existing locks.
> > *
> > * We must use ACQUIRE semantics for the mm_lock_seq so that if we are
> > @@ -735,9 +775,10 @@ static inline bool vma_start_read(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > * This pairs with RELEASE semantics in vma_end_write_all().
> > */
> > if (unlikely(vma->vm_lock_seq == raw_read_seqcount(&vma->vm_mm->mm_lock_seq))) {
>
> The previous modification of this spot to raw_read_seqcount loses the
> acquire fence, making the above comment not line up with the code.
Is it? From reading the seqcount code
(https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.13-rc3/source/include/linux/seqlock.h#L211):
raw_read_seqcount()
seqprop_sequence()
__seqprop(s, sequence)
__seqprop_sequence()
smp_load_acquire()
smp_load_acquire() still provides the acquire fence. Am I missing something?
>
> I don't know if the stock code (with down_read_trylock()) is correct as
> is -- looks fine for cursory reading fwiw. However, if it indeed works,
> the acquire fence stemming from the lock routine is a mandatory part of
> it afaics.
>
> I think the best way forward is to add a new refcount routine which
> ships with an acquire fence.
I plan on replacing refcount_t usage here with an atomic since, as
Hillf noted, refcount is not designed to be used for locking. And will
make sure the down_read_trylock() replacement will provide an acquire
fence.
>
> Otherwise I would suggest:
> 1. a comment above __refcount_inc_not_zero_limited saying there is an
> acq fence issued later
> 2. smp_rmb() slapped between that and seq accesses
>
> If the now removed fence is somehow not needed, I think a comment
> explaining it is necessary.
>
> > @@ -813,36 +856,33 @@ static inline void vma_assert_write_locked(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> >
> > static inline void vma_assert_locked(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > {
> > - if (!rwsem_is_locked(&vma->vm_lock.lock))
> > + if (refcount_read(&vma->vm_refcnt) <= 1)
> > vma_assert_write_locked(vma);
> > }
> >
>
> This now forces the compiler to emit a load from vm_refcnt even if
> vma_assert_write_locked expands to nothing. iow this wants to hide
> behind the same stuff as vma_assert_write_locked.
True. I guess I'll have to avoid using vma_assert_write_locked() like this:
static inline void vma_assert_locked(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
{
unsigned int mm_lock_seq;
VM_BUG_ON_VMA(refcount_read(&vma->vm_refcnt) <= 1 &&
!__is_vma_write_locked(vma,
&mm_lock_seq), vma);
}
Will make the change.
Thanks for the feedback!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-11 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-11 4:25 [PATCH v9 00/17] reimplement per-vma lock as a refcount Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 01/17] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 02/17] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 03/17] mm: mark vma as detached until it's added into vma tree Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 04/17] mm: introduce vma_iter_store_attached() to use with attached vmas Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 11:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 16:31 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 16:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 19:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 05/17] mm: mark vmas detached upon exit Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 12:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:02 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 17:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 19:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 20:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-13 20:42 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 06/17] types: move struct rcuwait into types.h Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 14:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 07/17] mm: allow vma_start_read_locked/vma_start_read_locked_nested to fail Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 15:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:53 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 08/17] mm: move mmap_init_lock() out of the header file Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 15:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:53 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] mm: uninline the main body of vma_start_write() Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 15:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 10/17] refcount: introduce __refcount_{add|inc}_not_zero_limited Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 6:31 ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-11 9:59 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 10:00 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 12:13 ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-11 17:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 23:44 ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-12 0:31 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 9:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 10:52 ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-11 12:39 ` David Laight
2025-01-11 17:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-11 18:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-11 22:19 ` David Laight
2025-01-11 22:50 ` [PATCH v9 10/17] refcount: introduce __refcount_{add|inc}_not_zero_limited - clang 17.0.1 bug David Laight
2025-01-12 11:37 ` David Laight
2025-01-12 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 11/17] mm: replace vm_lock and detached flag with a reference count Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 11:24 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-11 20:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2025-01-11 20:16 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 20:31 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-11 20:58 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 20:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-13 1:47 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13 2:25 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13 21:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 21:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 11:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 15:00 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 16:22 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 16:00 ` [PATCH] refcount: Strengthen inc_not_zero() Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-16 15:12 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-17 15:41 ` Will Deacon
2025-01-27 14:09 ` Will Deacon
2025-01-27 19:21 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-28 23:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-06 2:52 ` [PATCH 1/1] refcount: provide ops for cases when object's memory can be reused Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-06 10:41 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-06 3:03 ` [PATCH] refcount: Strengthen inc_not_zero() Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-13 23:04 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-17 16:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-12 2:59 ` [PATCH v9 11/17] mm: replace vm_lock and detached flag with a reference count Wei Yang
2025-01-12 17:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 0:59 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13 2:37 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13 21:16 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 9:36 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-13 21:18 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 2:58 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-15 3:12 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 12:05 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-15 15:01 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-16 1:37 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-16 1:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-16 9:10 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-11 4:25 ` [PATCH v9 12/17] mm: move lesser used vma_area_struct members into the last cacheline Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-15 16:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-13 22:59 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:26 ` [PATCH v9 13/17] mm/debug: print vm_refcnt state when dumping the vma Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 16:35 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-13 17:57 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11 4:26 ` [PATCH v9 14/17] mm: remove extra vma_numab_state_init() call Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-11 4:26 ` [PATCH v9 15/17] mm: prepare lock_vma_under_rcu() for vma reuse possibility Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:26 ` [PATCH v9 16/17] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 2:27 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-15 3:15 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 3:58 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-15 5:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 3:59 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-15 5:47 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 5:51 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-15 6:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 7:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-15 15:10 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-13 22:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 12:17 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-15 21:46 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:26 ` [PATCH v9 17/17] docs/mm: document latest changes to vm_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 16:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 17:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-11 4:52 ` [PATCH v9 00/17] reimplement per-vma lock as a refcount Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-11 9:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 12:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 16:58 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-13 17:11 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-13 19:00 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 11:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 1:49 ` Andrew Morton
2025-01-14 2:53 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-14 4:09 ` Andrew Morton
2025-01-14 9:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-14 10:27 ` Hillf Danton
2025-01-14 9:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 14:59 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-14 15:54 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-15 11:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 15:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-28 5:26 ` Shivank Garg
2025-01-28 5:50 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
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