From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, maple-tree@lists.infradead.org,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Sidhartha Kumar <sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/10] SLUB percpu sheaves
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:56:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpGW1mf9H6FW-6rDT1C4=78frOfD2Mftj_83QdfK=S2O5Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e728af67-4f7b-43ef-8fe5-0eec4064c625@suse.cz>
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 4:08 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 3/14/25 18:10, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 11:08 AM Liam R. Howlett <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> * Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> [250304 05:55]:
> >> > On 2/25/25 21:26, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> >> > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 1:12 PM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > The values represent the total time it took to perform mmap syscalls, less is
> >> > >> > > better.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > (1) baseline control
> >> > >> > > Little core 7.58327 6.614939 (-12.77%)
> >> > >> > > Medium core 2.125315 1.428702 (-32.78%)
> >> > >> > > Big core 0.514673 0.422948 (-17.82%)
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > (2) baseline control
> >> > >> > > Little core 7.58327 5.141478 (-32.20%)
> >> > >> > > Medium core 2.125315 0.427692 (-79.88%)
> >> > >> > > Big core 0.514673 0.046642 (-90.94%)
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > (3) baseline control
> >> > >> > > Little core 7.58327 4.779624 (-36.97%)
> >> > >> > > Medium core 2.125315 0.450368 (-78.81%)
> >> > >> > > Big core 0.514673 0.037776 (-92.66%)
> >> > >
> >> > > (4) baseline control
> >> > > Little core 7.58327 4.642977 (-38.77%)
> >> > > Medium core 2.125315 0.373692 (-82.42%)
> >> > > Big core 0.514673 0.043613 (-91.53%)
> >> > >
> >> > > I think the difference between (3) and (4) is noise.
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Suren.
> >> >
> >> > Hi, as we discussed yesterday, it would be useful to set the baseline to
> >> > include everything before sheaves as that's already on the way to 6.15, so
> >> > we can see more clearly what sheaves do relative to that. So at this point
> >> > it's the vma lock conversion including TYPESAFE_BY_RCU (that's not undone,
> >> > thus like in scenario (4)), and benchmark the following:
> >> >
> >> > - baseline - vma locking conversion with TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
> >> > - baseline+maple tree node reduction from mm-unstable (Liam might point out
> >> > which patches?)
> >>
> >> Sid's patches [1] are already in mm-unstable.
> >>
> >>
> >> > - the above + this series + sheaves enabled for vm_area_struct cache
> >> > - the above + full maple node sheaves conversion [1]
> >> > - the above + the top-most patches from [1] that are optimizations with a
> >> > tradeoff (not clear win-win) so it would be good to know if they are useful
> >> >
> >> > [1] currently the 4 commits here:
> >> > https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/vbabka/linux.git/log/?h=slub-percpu-sheaves-v2-maple
> >> > from "maple_tree: Sheaf conversion" to "maple_tree: Clean up sheaf"
> >> > but as Liam noted, they won't cherry pick without conflict once maple tree
> >> > node reduction is backported, but he's working on a rebase
> >>
> >> Rebased maple tree sheaves, patches are here [2].
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> > Sorry for the delay. I got the numbers last week but they looked a bit
> > weird, so I reran the test increasing the number of iterations to make
> > sure noise is not a factor. That took most of this week. Below are the
> > results. Please note that I had to backport the patchsets to 6.12
> > because that's the closest stable Android kernel I can use. I measure
> > cumulative time to execute mmap syscalls, so the smaller the number
> > the better mmap performance is:
>
> Is that a particular benchmark doing those syscalls, or you time them within
> actual workloads?
I time them inside my workload.
>
> > baseline: 6.12 + vm_lock conversion and TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
> > config1: baseline + Sid's patches [1]
> > config2: sheaves RFC
> > config3: config1 + vm_area_struct with sheaves
> > config4: config2 + maple_tree Sheaf conversion [2]
> > config5: config3 + 2 last optimization patches from [3]
> >
> > config1 config2 config3 config4 config5
> > Little core -0.10% -10.10% -12.89% -10.02% -13.64%
> > Mid core -21.05% -37.31% -44.97% -15.81% -22.15%
> > Big core -17.17% -34.41% -45.68% -11.39% -15.29%
>
> Thanks a lot, Suren.
>
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250227204823.758784-1-sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com/
> > [2] https://www.infradead.org/git/?p=users/jedix/linux-maple.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/sheaves_rebase_20250304
> > [3] https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/vbabka/linux.git/log/?h=slub-percpu-sheaves-v2-maple
> >
> > From the numbers, it looks like config4 regresses the performance and
> > that's what looked weird to me last week and I wanted to confirm this.
> > But from sheaves POV, it looks like they provide the benefits I saw
> > before. Sid's patches which I did not test separately before also look
> > beneficial.
>
> Indeed, good job, Sid. It's weird that config4 isn't doing well. The problem
> can be either in sheaves side (the sheaves preallocation isn't effective) or
> maple tree side doing some excessive work. It could be caused by the wrong
> condition in kmem_cache_return_sheaf() that Harry pointed out, so v3 might
> improve if that was it. Otherwise we'll probably need to fill the gaps in
> sheaf-related stats and see what are the differences between config3 and
> config4.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Suren.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Liam
> >>
> >> [1]. https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250227204823.758784-1-sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com/
> >> [2]. https://www.infradead.org/git/?p=users/jedix/linux-maple.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/sheaves_rebase_20250304
>
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-14 16:27 Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/10] slab: add opt-in caching layer of " Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-22 22:46 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-22 22:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-12 14:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-12 15:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-17 10:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-24 8:04 ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 14:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/10] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-22 23:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-12 16:19 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-24 8:40 ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 16:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/10] locking/local_lock: Introduce localtry_lock_t Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-17 14:19 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-17 14:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-17 15:07 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-18 18:41 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-26 17:00 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-02-26 17:15 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-26 19:28 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/10] locking/local_lock: add localtry_trylock() Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/10] slab: switch percpu sheaves locking to localtry_lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23 2:33 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-24 13:08 ` Harry Yoo
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/10] slab: sheaf prefilling for guaranteed allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23 3:54 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-25 7:30 ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 17:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-25 8:00 ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 18:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/10] slab: determine barn status racily outside of lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23 4:00 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-25 8:54 ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 18:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/10] tools: Add testing support for changes to rcu and slab for sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23 4:24 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/10] tools: Add sheafs support to testing infrastructure Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/10] maple_tree: use percpu sheaves for maple_node_cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23 4:27 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-14 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/10] SLUB percpu sheaves Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-02-23 0:19 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-23 4:44 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-24 1:36 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-24 1:43 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-24 20:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-24 21:12 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-25 20:26 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-04 10:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-04 18:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-04 19:08 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-03-14 17:10 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-17 11:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-17 18:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
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