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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	 lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, david@redhat.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	 peterx@redhat.com, jannh@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mhocko@kernel.org,  paulmck@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org,
	adobriyan@gmail.com, brauner@kernel.org,  josef@toxicpanda.com,
	yebin10@huawei.com, linux@weissschuh.net,  willy@infradead.org,
	osalvador@suse.de, andrii@kernel.org,  ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 8/8] mm/maps: execute PROCMAP_QUERY ioctl under RCU
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:53:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpGQPO5AqiZxfb9JYUqd5suS2C+qWt-_acjU0zFf-g-eGA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzabPLJTy1U=aBrGZqKpskNYvj5MYuhPHSh_=hjmVJMvrg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 3:54 PM Andrii Nakryiko
<andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:50 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Utilize speculative vma lookup to find and snapshot a vma without
> > taking mmap_lock during PROCMAP_QUERY ioctl execution. Concurrent
> > address space modifications are detected and the lookup is retried.
> > While we take the mmap_lock for reading during such contention, we
> > do that momentarily only to record new mm_wr_seq counter.
>
> PROCMAP_QUERY is an even more obvious candidate for fully lockless
> speculation, IMO (because it's more obvious that vma's use is
> localized to do_procmap_query(), instead of being spread across
> m_start/m_next and m_show as with seq_file approach). We do
> rcu_read_lock(), mmap_lock_speculate_try_begin(), query for VMA (no
> mmap_read_lock), use that VMA to produce (speculative) output, and
> then validate that VMA or mm_struct didn't change with
> mmap_lock_speculate_retry(). If it did - retry, if not - we are done.
> No need for vma_copy and any gets/puts, no?

Yeah, since we can simply retry, this should indeed work without
trying to stabilize the vma. I'll update the code to simplify this.
Thanks!

>
> > This change is designed to reduce mmap_lock contention and prevent
> > PROCMAP_QUERY ioctl calls (often a low priority task, such as
> > monitoring/data collection services) from blocking address space
> > updates.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> > ---
> >  fs/proc/task_mmu.c | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> >  1 file changed, 55 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> >
>
> [...]


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-23 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-18 17:49 [PATCH v3 0/8] perform /proc/pid/maps read and PROCMAP_QUERY " Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 17:49 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] selftests/proc: add /proc/pid/maps tearing from vma split test Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 17:49 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] selftests/proc: extend /proc/pid/maps tearing test to include vma resizing Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 17:49 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] selftests/proc: extend /proc/pid/maps tearing test to include vma remapping Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 18:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-18 19:31     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 19:55       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-18 20:03         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 17:49 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] selftests/proc: test PROCMAP_QUERY ioctl while vma is concurrently modified Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 17:49 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] selftests/proc: add verbose more for tests to facilitate debugging Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 17:49 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] mm: make vm_area_struct anon_name field RCU-safe Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 17:49 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] mm/maps: read proc/pid/maps under RCU Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-22 22:48   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-23 21:49     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-23 22:06       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-24  0:23         ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-04-24 15:20           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-24 16:03             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-24 16:42               ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-04-24 17:38                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-24 17:44                 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-29 15:39   ` Jann Horn
2025-04-29 17:09     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-29 17:20       ` Jann Horn
2025-04-29 18:04         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-29 18:54           ` Jann Horn
2025-04-29 20:33             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-29 20:43               ` Jann Horn
2025-05-05 13:50             ` Christian Brauner
2025-05-05 16:38               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-18 17:49 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] mm/maps: execute PROCMAP_QUERY ioctl " Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-22 22:54   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-23 21:53     ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2025-04-29 15:55     ` Jann Horn
2025-04-29 17:14       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-29 17:24         ` Jann Horn
2025-05-01 22:10           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-05-02 15:11             ` Jann Horn
2025-05-02 16:16               ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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