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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	lizefan@huawei.com, axboe@kernel.dk, dennis@kernel.org,
	Dennis Zhou <dennisszhou@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] psi: introduce psi monitor
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:58:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpGQKQ9oVKdVeLNQHY2+2XTjLXb6VHDcJKAUCtSxvd68wQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181218173000.GA4733@cmpxchg.org>

Current design supports only whole percentages and if userspace needs
more granularity then it has to use usecs.
I agree that usecs cover % usecase and "threshold * win / 100" is
simple enough for userspace to calculate. I'm fine with changing to
usecs only.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:30 AM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 11:46:22AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 05:21:05PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:22 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > How well has this thing been fuzzed? Custom string parser, yay!
> > >
> > > Honestly, not much. Normal cases and some obvious corner cases. Will
> > > check if I can use some fuzzer to get more coverage or will write a
> > > script.
> > > I'm not thrilled about writing a custom parser, so if there is a
> > > better way to handle this please advise.
> >
> > The grammar seems fairly simple, something like:
> >
> >   some-full = "some" | "full" ;
> >   threshold-abs = integer ;
> >   threshold-pct = integer, { "%" } ;
> >   threshold = threshold-abs | threshold-pct ;
> >   window = integer ;
> >   trigger = some-full, space, threshold, space, window ;
> >
> > And that could even be expressed as two scanf formats:
> >
> >  "%4s %u%% %u" , "%4s %u %u"
> >
> > which then gets your something like:
> >
> >   char type[5];
> >
> >   if (sscanf(input, "%4s %u%% %u", &type, &pct, &window) == 3) {
> >       // do pct thing
> >   } else if (sscanf(intput, "%4s %u %u", &type, &thres, &window) == 3) {
> >       // do abs thing
> >   } else return -EFAIL;
> >
> >   if (!strcmp(type, "some")) {
> >       // some
> >   } else if (!strcmp(type, "full")) {
> >       // full
> >   } else return -EFAIL;
> >
> >   // do more
>
> We might want to drop the percentage notation.
>
> While it's somewhat convenient, it's also not unreasonable to ask
> userspace to do a simple "threshold * win / 100" themselves, and it
> would simplify the interface spec and the parser.
>
> Sure, psi outputs percentages, but only for fixed window sizes, so
> that actually saves us something, whereas this parser here needs to
> take a fractional anyway. The output is also in decimal notation,
> which is necessary for granularity. And I really don't think we want
> to add float parsing on top of this interface spec.
>
> So neither the convenience nor the symmetry argument are very
> compelling IMO. It might be better to just not go there.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-18 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-14 17:15 [PATCH 0/6] psi: pressure stall monitors Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs: kernfs: add poll file operation Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 2/6] kernel: cgroup: " Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 3/6] psi: eliminate lazy clock mode Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-17 14:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18  1:10     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 4/6] psi: introduce state_mask to represent stalled psi states Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-17 15:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18  1:14     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-18 10:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 5/6] psi: rename psi fields in preparation for psi trigger addition Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 6/6] psi: introduce psi monitor Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-17 16:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18  1:21     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-18 10:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 11:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 17:30         ` Johannes Weiner
2018-12-18 17:58           ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2018-12-18 19:18             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-12-18 20:29               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-17 16:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18  1:22     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-18 16:51   ` kbuild test robot
2018-12-22 14:12   ` kbuild test robot
2018-12-22 14:12     ` kbuild test robot

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