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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, liam.howlett@oracle.com,
	 lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, mhocko@suse.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mm: replace rw_semaphore with atomic_t in vma_lock
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:19:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpGKEthmc2JkbOcfEJqsM_cBcm0cAvv0VFe-acMi169fcQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpHKFZ2Q1R1Knh-LFLUYcTX6CJuEsqNM5AwxRyDUAzdcVw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 6:17 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 1:17 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 07:01:16PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> >
> > > > > > I think your proposal should work. Let me try to code it and see if
> > > > > > something breaks.
> > >
> > > Ok, I tried it out and things are a bit more complex:
> > > 1. We should allow write-locking a detached VMA, IOW vma_start_write()
> > > can be called when vm_refcnt is 0.
> >
> > This sounds dodgy, refcnt being zero basically means the object is dead
> > and you shouldn't be touching it no more. Where does this happen and
> > why?
> >
> > Notably, it being 0 means it is no longer in the mas tree and can't be
> > found anymore.
>
> It happens when a newly created vma that was not yet attached
> (vma->vm_refcnt = 0) is write-locked before being added into the vma
> tree. For example:
> mmap()
>   mmap_write_lock()
>   vma = vm_area_alloc() // vma->vm_refcnt = 0 (detached)
>   //vma attributes are initialized
>   vma_start_write() // write 0x8000 0001 into vma->vm_refcnt
>   mas_store_gfp()
>   vma_mark_attached()
>   mmap_write_lock() // vma_end_write_all()

s/mmap_write_lock()/mmap_write_unlock()
>
> In this scenario, we write-lock the VMA before adding it into the tree
> to prevent readers (pagefaults) from using it until we drop the
> mmap_write_lock(). In your proposal, the first thing vma_start_write()
> does is add(0x8000'0001) and that will trigger a warning.
> For now instead of add(0x8000'0001) I can play this game to avoid the warning:
>
> if (refcount_inc_not_zero(&vma->vm_refcnt))
>     refcount_add(0x80000000, &vma->vm_refcnt);
> else
>     refcount_set(&vma->vm_refcnt, 0x80000001);
>
> this refcount_set() works because vma with vm_refcnt==0 could not be
> found by readers. I'm not sure this will still work when we add
> TYPESAFE_BY_RCU and introduce vma reuse possibility.
>
> >
> > > 2. Adding 0x80000000 saturates refcnt, so I have to use a lower bit
> > > 0x40000000 to denote writers.
> >
> > I'm confused, what? We're talking about atomic_t, right?
>
> I thought you suggested using refcount_t. According to
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.13-rc2/source/include/linux/refcount.h#L22
> valid values would be [0..0x7fff_ffff] and 0x80000000 is outside of
> that range. What am I missing?
>
> >
> > > 3. Currently vma_mark_attached() can be called on an already attached
> > > VMA. With vma->detached being a separate attribute that works fine but
> > > when we combine it with the vm_lock things break (extra attach would
> > > leak into lock count). I'll see if I can catch all the cases when we
> > > do this and clean them up (not call vma_mark_attached() when not
> > > necessary).
> >
> > Right, I hadn't looked at that thing in detail, that sounds like it
> > needs a wee cleanup like you suggest.
>
> Yes, I'll embark on that today. Will see how much of a problem that is.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-12 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-11 20:55 [PATCH 0/4] move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 20:55 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 20:55 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  9:36   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-12  9:47   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-12 10:18   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-12 15:57   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-12 16:08     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 16:58       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 20:55 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: replace rw_semaphore with atomic_t in vma_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  0:06   ` Andrew Morton
2024-11-12  0:52     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  0:35   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-11-12  0:59     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  4:58   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-12 15:18     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-10 22:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-10 23:37         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-11  8:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-11 15:20             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-12  3:01               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-12  9:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-12 14:17                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-12 14:19                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2024-12-13  4:48                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-13  9:57                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 17:45                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-13 18:19                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-13 18:35                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 18:37                               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-16 19:32                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-13  9:22                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 17:41                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 20:55 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: move lesser used vma_area_struct members into the last cacheline Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 10:07   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-12 15:45     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 21:41 ` [PATCH 0/4] move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  2:48   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-12  3:27     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 22:18 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-11-11 23:19   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  0:03     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-11-12  0:43       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  0:11     ` Andrew Morton
2024-11-12  0:48       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  2:35 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-12  3:23   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  9:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-12 15:38   ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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