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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  peterz@infradead.org,
	oleg@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,  mhiramat@kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 jolsa@kernel.org, paulmck@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
	 akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 13/13] uprobes: add speculative lockless VMA to inode resolution
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 08:36:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpG8hCNjqmttb91yq5kPaSGaYLL1ozkHKqUjD7X3n_60+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7byqni7pmnufzjj73eqee2hvpk47tzgwot32gez3lb2u5lucs2@5m7dvjrvtmv2>

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:18 PM Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 09:29:17PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > Now that files_cachep is SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, we can safely access
> > vma->vm_file->f_inode lockless only under rcu_read_lock() protection,
> > attempting uprobe look up speculatively.
> >
> > We rely on newly added mmap_lock_speculation_{start,end}() helpers to
> > validate that mm_struct stays intact for entire duration of this
> > speculation. If not, we fall back to mmap_lock-protected lookup.
> >
> > This allows to avoid contention on mmap_lock in absolutely majority of
> > cases, nicely improving uprobe/uretprobe scalability.
> >
>
> Here I have to admit to being mostly ignorant about the mm, so bear with
> me. :>
>
> I note the result of find_active_uprobe_speculative is immediately stale
> in face of modifications.
>
> The thing I'm after is that the mmap_lock_speculation business adds
> overhead on archs where a release fence is not a de facto nop and I
> don't believe the commit message justifies it. Definitely a bummer to
> add merely it for uprobes. If there are bigger plans concerning it
> that's a different story of course.
>
> With this in mind I have to ask if instead you could perhaps get away
> with the already present per-vma sequence counter?

per-vma sequence counter does not implement acquire/release logic, it
relies on vma->vm_lock for synchronization. So if we want to use it,
we would have to add additional memory barriers here. This is likely
possible but as I mentioned before we would need to ensure the
pagefault path does not regress. OTOH mm->mm_lock_seq already halfway
there (it implements acquire/release logic), we just had to ensure
mmap_write_lock() increments mm->mm_lock_seq.

So, from the release fence overhead POV I think whether we use
mm->mm_lock_seq or vma->vm_lock, we would still need a proper fence
here.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-13  4:29 [PATCH v3 00/13] uprobes: RCU-protected hot path optimizations Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] uprobes: revamp uprobe refcounting and lifetime management Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] uprobes: protected uprobe lifetime with SRCU Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] uprobes: get rid of enum uprobe_filter_ctx in uprobe filter callbacks Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] uprobes: travers uprobe's consumer list locklessly under SRCU protection Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-22 14:22   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-22 16:59     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-22 17:35       ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-22 17:51         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] perf/uprobe: split uprobe_unregister() Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] rbtree: provide rb_find_rcu() / rb_find_add_rcu() Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] uprobes: perform lockless SRCU-protected uprobes_tree lookup Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] uprobes: switch to RCU Tasks Trace flavor for better performance Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH RFC v3 09/13] uprobes: SRCU-protect uretprobe lifetime (with timeout) Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-19 13:41   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-19 20:34     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-20 15:05       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-20 18:01         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH RFC v3 10/13] uprobes: implement SRCU-protected lifetime for single-stepped uprobe Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH RFC v3 11/13] mm: introduce mmap_lock_speculation_{start|end} Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH RFC v3 12/13] mm: add SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU to files_cache Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  6:07   ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-13 14:49     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-08-13 18:15       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  4:29 ` [PATCH RFC v3 13/13] uprobes: add speculative lockless VMA to inode resolution Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-13  6:17   ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-13 15:36     ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2024-08-15 13:44       ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-15 16:47         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-15 17:45           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-08-15 18:24             ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-15 18:58             ` Jann Horn
2024-08-15 19:07               ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-08-15 19:17                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2024-08-15 19:18                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2024-08-15 19:44               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-08-15 20:17               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-15 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] uprobes: RCU-protected hot path optimizations Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-15 16:49   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-21 16:41     ` Andrii Nakryiko

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