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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	 Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	 Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 rcu@vger.kernel.org, maple-tree@lists.infradead.org,
	 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/10] SLUB percpu sheaves
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 10:35:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpG2U0DW2PubJw6aAwf2VLdy8Y9ov5iwt7nkn9XskBc6Ww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19df9218-c984-4cbc-8b5d-4e0f7658935f@suse.cz>

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 2:55 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 2/25/25 21:26, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 1:12 PM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > > The values represent the total time it took to perform mmap syscalls, less is
> >> > > better.
> >> > >
> >> > > (1)                  baseline       control
> >> > > Little core       7.58327       6.614939 (-12.77%)
> >> > > Medium core  2.125315     1.428702 (-32.78%)
> >> > > Big core          0.514673     0.422948 (-17.82%)
> >> > >
> >> > > (2)                  baseline      control
> >> > > Little core       7.58327       5.141478 (-32.20%)
> >> > > Medium core  2.125315     0.427692 (-79.88%)
> >> > > Big core          0.514673    0.046642 (-90.94%)
> >> > >
> >> > > (3)                   baseline      control
> >> > > Little core        7.58327      4.779624 (-36.97%)
> >> > > Medium core   2.125315    0.450368 (-78.81%)
> >> > > Big core           0.514673    0.037776 (-92.66%)
> >
> > (4)                   baseline      control
> > Little core        7.58327      4.642977 (-38.77%)
> > Medium core   2.125315    0.373692 (-82.42%)
> > Big core           0.514673    0.043613 (-91.53%)
> >
> > I think the difference between (3) and (4) is noise.
> > Thanks,
> > Suren.
>
> Hi, as we discussed yesterday, it would be useful to set the baseline to
> include everything before sheaves as that's already on the way to 6.15, so
> we can see more clearly what sheaves do relative to that. So at this point
> it's the vma lock conversion including TYPESAFE_BY_RCU (that's not undone,
> thus like in scenario (4)), and benchmark the following:
>
> - baseline - vma locking conversion with TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
> - baseline+maple tree node reduction from mm-unstable (Liam might point out
> which patches?)
> - the above + this series + sheaves enabled for vm_area_struct cache
> - the above + full maple node sheaves conversion [1]
> - the above + the top-most patches from [1] that are optimizations with a
> tradeoff (not clear win-win) so it would be good to know if they are useful
>
> [1] currently the 4 commits here:
> https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/vbabka/linux.git/log/?h=slub-percpu-sheaves-v2-maple
> from "maple_tree: Sheaf conversion" to "maple_tree: Clean up sheaf"
> but as Liam noted, they won't cherry pick without conflict once maple tree
> node reduction is backported, but he's working on a rebase
>
> Thanks in advance!

Sure, I'll run the tests and post results sometime later this week.
Thanks!

>
> >> > >
> >> > > Results in (3) vs (2) indicate that using sheaves for vm_area_struct
> >> > > yields slightly better averages and I noticed that this was mostly due
> >> > > to sheaves results missing occasional spikes that worsened
> >> > > TYPESAFE_BY_RCU averages (the results seemed more stable with
> >> > > sheaves).
> >> >
> >> > Thanks a lot, that looks promising!
> >>
> >> Indeed, that looks better than I expected :)
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >> >
> >> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250213224655.1680278-1-surenb@google.com/
> >> > >
> >> >
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-04 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-14 16:27 Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/10] slab: add opt-in caching layer of " Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-22 22:46   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-22 22:56     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-12 14:57     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-12 15:14       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-17 10:09         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-24  8:04   ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 14:59     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/10] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-22 23:08   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-12 16:19     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-24  8:40   ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 16:16     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/10] locking/local_lock: Introduce localtry_lock_t Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-17 14:19   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-17 14:35     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-17 15:07       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-18 18:41       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-26 17:00   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-02-26 17:15     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-26 19:28       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/10] locking/local_lock: add localtry_trylock() Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/10] slab: switch percpu sheaves locking to localtry_lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23  2:33   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-24 13:08   ` Harry Yoo
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/10] slab: sheaf prefilling for guaranteed allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23  3:54   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-25  7:30     ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 17:09     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-25  8:00   ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 18:16     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/10] slab: determine barn status racily outside of lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23  4:00   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-25  8:54   ` Harry Yoo
2025-03-12 18:23     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/10] tools: Add testing support for changes to rcu and slab for sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23  4:24   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/10] tools: Add sheafs support to testing infrastructure Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-14 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/10] maple_tree: use percpu sheaves for maple_node_cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-23  4:27   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-14 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/10] SLUB percpu sheaves Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-02-23  0:19 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-23  4:44   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-24  1:36     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-24  1:43       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-24 20:53       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-24 21:12         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-02-25 20:26           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-04 10:54             ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-04 18:35               ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2025-03-04 19:08               ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-03-14 17:10                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-03-17 11:08                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-17 18:56                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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