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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	lizefan@huawei.com, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, dennis@kernel.org,
	Dennis Zhou <dennisszhou@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] psi: eliminate lazy clock mode
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:10:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpFtqd=RDDW_U5HFXuAZzNh6F+Enrjz3P4jZg=hvyH9RwQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181217145754.GB2218@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 6:58 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 09:15:05AM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > Eliminate the idle mode and keep the worker doing 2s update intervals
> > at all times.
>
> That sounds like a bad deal.. esp. so for battery powered devices like
> say Andoird.
>
> In general the push has been to always idle everything, see NOHZ and
> NOHZ_FULL and all the work that's being put into getting rid of any and
> all period work.

Thanks for the feedback Peter! The removal of idle mode is unfortunate
but so far we could not find an elegant solution to handle 3 states
(IDLE / REGULAR / POLLING) without additional synchronization inside
the hotpath. The issue, as I remember it, was that while scheduling a
regular update inside psi_group_change() (IDLE to REGULAR transition)
we might override an earlier update being scheduled inside
psi_update_work(). I think we can solve that by using
mod_delayed_work_on() inside psi_update_work() but I might be missing
some other race. I'll discuss this again with Johannes and see if we
can synchronize all states using only atomic operations on clock_mode.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-18  1:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-14 17:15 [PATCH 0/6] psi: pressure stall monitors Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs: kernfs: add poll file operation Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 2/6] kernel: cgroup: " Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 3/6] psi: eliminate lazy clock mode Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-17 14:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18  1:10     ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 4/6] psi: introduce state_mask to represent stalled psi states Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-17 15:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18  1:14     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-18 10:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 5/6] psi: rename psi fields in preparation for psi trigger addition Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-14 17:15 ` [PATCH 6/6] psi: introduce psi monitor Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-17 16:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18  1:21     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-18 10:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 11:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 17:30         ` Johannes Weiner
2018-12-18 17:58           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-18 19:18             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-12-18 20:29               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-17 16:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18  1:22     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2018-12-18 16:51   ` kbuild test robot
2018-12-22 14:12   ` kbuild test robot
2018-12-22 14:12     ` kbuild test robot

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