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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, rientjes@google.com,
	 hannes@cmpxchg.org, guro@fb.com, riel@surriel.com,
	minchan@kernel.org,  kirill@shutemov.name, aarcange@redhat.com,
	christian@brauner.io,  hch@infradead.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	david@redhat.com, jannh@google.com,  shakeelb@google.com,
	luto@kernel.org, christian.brauner@ubuntu.com,
	 fweimer@redhat.com, jengelh@inai.de, timmurray@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] mm: protect free_pgtables with mmap_lock write lock in exit_mmap
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 13:24:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpFeKV5Kz-ssEcqDQm_omJz2Q1+Shcpkcbg0vshAha4CAQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YbEF3mvk3SUr6WHp@casper.infradead.org>

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:22 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 11:13:42AM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 8:50 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 8:05 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 04:51:58PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > On Wed 08-12-21 15:01:24, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 03:08:19PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > > > > > >         /**
> > > > > > > > >          * @close: Called when the VMA is being removed from the MM.
> > > > > > > > >          * Context: Caller holds mmap_lock.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW, is the caller always required to hold mmap_lock for write or it
> > > > > > > *might* hold it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > __do_munmap() might hold it for read, thanks to:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >         if (downgrade)
> > > > > >                 mmap_write_downgrade(mm);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should probably say:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     * Context: User context.  May sleep.  Caller holds mmap_lock.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think we should burden the implementor of the vm_ops with the
> > > > > > knowledge that the VM chooses to not hold the mmap_lock under certain
> > > > > > circumstances when it doesn't matter whether it's holding the mmap_lock
> > > > > > or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we document it like that some code might depend on that lock to be
> > > > > held. I think we only want to document that the holder itself is not
> > > > > allowed to take mmap sem or a depending lock.
> > > >
> > > > The only place where we're not currently holding the mmap_lock is at
> > > > task exit, where the mmap_lock is effectively held because nobody else
> > > > can modify the task's mm.  Besides, Suren is changing that in this patch
> > > > series anyway, so it will be always true.
> > >
> > > Ok, I'll make it a separate patch after the patch that changes
> > > exit_mmap and this statement will become always true. Sounds
> > > reasonable?
> >
> > Actually, while today vma_ops->close is called with mmap_lock held, I
> > believe we want this comment to reflect the restrictions on the
> > callback itself, not on the user. IOW, we want to say that the
> > callback should not take mmap_lock while the caller might or might not
> > hold it. If so, I think *might* would make more sense here, like this:
> >
> > * Context: User context.  May sleep.  Caller might hold mmap_lock.
> >
> > WDYT?
>
> We're documenting the contract between the caller and the callee.
> That implies responsibilities on both sides.  For example, we're
> placing requirements on the caller that they're not going to tear
> down the VMA in interrupt context.  So I preferred what previous-Suren
> said to current-Suren, "this statement will become always true".
>

previous-Suren posted v4 at
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211208212211.2860249-1-surenb@google.com
Thanks!


      reply	other threads:[~2021-12-08 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-07 21:50 Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-12-07 21:50 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mm/oom_kill: allow process_mrelease to run under mmap_lock protection Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-12-07 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] mm: protect free_pgtables with mmap_lock write lock in exit_mmap Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-07 22:47   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-12-07 23:08     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-12-08  8:56       ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08 15:01       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-08 15:51         ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08 16:05           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-08 16:50             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-12-08 19:13               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-12-08 19:22                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-08 21:24                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]

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