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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Lei Liu <liulei.rjpt@vivo.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
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	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	 Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] mm: swap: Gather swap entries and batch async release
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:48:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpFaTj8PsXkoYRQKQ0sOu+mKikUAE8Wbcx+YpZXZ4M7cMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fszpgct7ywqy6qq3qnjflol3theovmgnau2wgdqqdxin4q7ezm@zumgw533hxon>

On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:21 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 02:53:39PM +0800, Lei Liu wrote:
> > 1. Problem Scenario
> > On systems with ZRAM and swap enabled, simultaneous process exits create
> > contention. The primary bottleneck occurs during swap entry release
> > operations, causing exiting processes to monopolize CPU resources. This
> > leads to scheduling delays for high-priority processes.
> >
> > 2. Android Use Case
> > During camera launch, LMKD terminates background processes to free memory.
>
> How does LMKD trigger the kills? SIGKILL or cgroup.kill?

SIGKILL

>
> > Exiting processes compete for CPU cycles, delaying the camera preview
> > thread and causing visible stuttering - directly impacting user
> > experience.
>
> Since the exit/kill is due to low memory situation, punting the memory
> freeing to a low priority async mechanism will help in improving user
> experience. Most probably the application (camera preview here) will get
> into global reclaim and will compete for CPU with the async memory
> freeing.
>
> What we really need is faster memory freeing and we should explore all
> possible ways. As others suggested fix/improve the bottleneck in the
> memory freeing path. In addition I think we should explore parallelizing
> this as well.
>
> On Android, I suppose most of the memory is associated with single or
> small set of processes and parallelizing memory freeing would be
> challenging. BTW is LMKD using process_mrelease() to release the killed
> process memory?

Yes, LMKD has a reaper thread which wakes up and calls
process_mrelease() after the main LMKD thread issued SIGKILL.

>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-09 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-09  6:53 Lei Liu
2025-09-09  6:53 ` [PATCH v0 1/2] mm: swap: Gather swap entries and batch async release core Lei Liu
2025-09-10  1:39   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-10  3:12   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-09  6:53 ` [PATCH v0 2/2] mm: swap: Forced swap entries release under memory pressure Lei Liu
2025-09-10  5:36   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-09  7:30 ` [PATCH v0 0/2] mm: swap: Gather swap entries and batch async release Kairui Song
2025-09-09  9:24   ` Barry Song
2025-09-09 16:15     ` Chris Li
2025-09-09 18:01       ` Chris Li
2025-09-10 14:07     ` Lei Liu
2025-10-14 20:42       ` Barry Song
2025-09-09 15:38   ` Chris Li
2025-09-10 14:01   ` Lei Liu
2025-09-09 19:21 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-09 19:48   ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2025-09-10 14:14     ` Lei Liu
2025-09-10 14:56       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 16:05       ` Chris Li
2025-09-10 20:12       ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-11  3:04         ` Lei Liu
2025-09-10 15:40     ` Chris Li
2025-09-10 20:10     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-10 20:41       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 22:10         ` T.J. Mercier
2025-09-10 22:33           ` Shakeel Butt

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