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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,  mjguzik@gmail.com,
	oliver.sang@intel.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	 david@redhat.com, peterx@redhat.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	dave@stgolabs.net,  paulmck@kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, hdanton@sina.com,  hughd@google.com,
	minchan@google.com, jannh@google.com,  shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	souravpanda@google.com, pasha.tatashin@soleen.com,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 07:47:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpF_fEVwyDAStueNoEW=MNS5MoLPc1RaQMaOHZxODmw_0A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa4i3inhnkyi6yazttb55khbm7swt7xq2sklmhp5y63kxw7bsc@i4wlyyzoo7h3>

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 7:29 AM Liam R. Howlett <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> * Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> [241113 10:25]:
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 7:23 AM 'Liam R. Howlett' via kernel-team
> > <kernel-team@android.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > * Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> [241113 08:57]:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 07:38:02AM -0500, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, I was wondering if we actually need the detached flag. Couldn't
> > > > > > "detached" simply mean vma->vm_mm == NULL and we save 4 bytes? Do we ever
> > > > > > need a vma that's detached but still has a mm pointer? I'd hope the places
> > > > > > that set detached to false have the mm pointer around so it's not inconvenient.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the gate vmas ruin this plan.
> > > >
> > > > But the gate VMAs aren't to be found in the VMA tree.  Used to be that
> > > > was because the VMA tree was the injective RB tree and so VMAs could
> > > > only be in one tree at a time.  We could change that now!
> > >
> > > \o/
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, we could use (void *)1 instead of NULL to indicate a "detached"
> > > > VMA if we need to distinguish between a detached VMA and a gate VMA.
> > >
> > > I was thinking a pointer to itself vma->vm_mm = vma, then a check for
> > > this, instead of null like we do today.
> >
> > The motivation for having a separate detached flag was that vma->vm_mm
> > is used when read/write locking the vma, so it has to stay valid even
> > when vma gets detached. Maybe we can be more cautious in
> > vma_start_read()/vma_start_write() about it but I don't recall if
> > those were the only places that was an issue.
>
> We have the mm form the callers though, so it could be passed in?

Let me try and see if something else blows up. When I was implementing
per-vma locks I thought about using vma->vm_mm to indicate detached
state but there were some issues that caused me reconsider.

>
> >
> > >
> > > Either way, we should make it a function so it's easier to reuse for
> > > whatever we need in the future, wdyt?
> > >
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> > >


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-13 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-12 19:46 [PATCH v2 0/5] move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:10   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:30     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:28   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 14:45     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 14:58       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:09         ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 14:53     ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-11-13 14:59       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:45       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 15:42     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: mark vma as detached until it's added into vma tree Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:37     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  2:57   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  5:08     ` Hugh Dickins
2024-11-13  6:03       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  6:52         ` Hugh Dickins
2024-11-13  8:19           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  8:58   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 12:38     ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 13:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 15:22         ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 15:25           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 15:29             ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 15:47               ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2024-11-13 19:05                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-14 16:18                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-14 16:21                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 16:44           ` Jann Horn
2024-11-13 20:59             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 21:23               ` Jann Horn
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] docs/mm: document latest changes to vm_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:51   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:46     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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