From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
cgroups mailinglist <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: vmscan: enforce inactive:active ratio at the reclaim root
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:13:09 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpFJ-tzqc6Ng-6ntQn46iatgOdLF5PY6WAcOHVvGSQGwMg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191112180019.GB178331@cmpxchg.org>
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:00 AM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 06:15:50PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 12:53 PM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> > > @@ -2758,7 +2775,17 @@ static bool shrink_node(pg_data_t *pgdat, struct scan_control *sc)
> > > total_high_wmark += high_wmark_pages(zone);
> > > }
> > >
> > > - sc->file_is_tiny = file + free <= total_high_wmark;
> > > + /*
> > > + * Consider anon: if that's low too, this isn't a
> > > + * runaway file reclaim problem, but rather just
> > > + * extreme pressure. Reclaim as per usual then.
> > > + */
> > > + anon = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_ANON);
> > > +
> > > + sc->file_is_tiny =
> > > + file + free <= total_high_wmark &&
> > > + !(sc->may_deactivate & DEACTIVATE_ANON) &&
> > > + anon >> sc->priority;
> >
> > The name of file_is_tiny flag seems to not correspond with its actual
> > semantics anymore. Maybe rename it into "skip_file"?
>
> I'm not a fan of file_is_tiny, but I also don't like skip_file. IMO
> it's better to have it describe a situation instead of an action, in
> case we later want to take additional action for that situation.
>
> Any other ideas? ;)
All other ideas still yield verbs (like sc->prefer_anon). Maybe then
add some comment at the file_is_tiny declaration that it represents
not only the fact that the file LRU is too small to reclaim but also
that there are easily reclaimable anon pages?
>
> > I'm confused about why !(sc->may_deactivate & DEACTIVATE_ANON) should
> > be a prerequisite for skipping file LRU reclaim. IIUC this means we
> > will skip reclaiming from file LRU only when anonymous page
> > deactivation is not allowed. Could you please add a comment explaining
> > this?
>
> The comment above this check tries to explain it: the definition of
> file being "tiny" is dependent on the availability of anon. It's a
> relative comparison.
>
> If file only has a few pages, and anon is easily reclaimable (does not
> require deactivation to reclaim pages), then file is "tiny" and we
> should go after the more plentiful anon pages.
Your above explanation is much clearer to me than the one in the comment :)
>
> If anon is under duress, too, this preference doesn't make sense and
> we should just reclaim both lists equally, as per usual.
>
> Note that I'm not introducing this constraint, I'm just changing how
> it's implemented. From the patch:
>
> > > /*
> > > * If the system is almost out of file pages, force-scan anon.
> > > - * But only if there are enough inactive anonymous pages on
> > > - * the LRU. Otherwise, the small LRU gets thrashed.
> > > */
> > > - if (sc->file_is_tiny &&
> > > - !inactive_list_is_low(lruvec, false, sc, false) &&
> > > - lruvec_lru_size(lruvec, LRU_INACTIVE_ANON,
> > > - sc->reclaim_idx) >> sc->priority) {
> > > + if (sc->file_is_tiny) {
> > > scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> > > goto out;
> > > }
>
> So it's always been checking whether reclaim would deactivate anon,
> and whether inactive_anon has sufficient pages for this priority.
I didn't realize !inactive_list_is_low(lruvec, false, sc, false) is
effectively the same as !(sc->may_deactivate & DEACTIVATE_ANON) but
after re-reading the patch that makes sense... Except when
force_deactivate==true, in which case shouldn't you consider
NR_ACTIVE_ANON as easily reclaimable too? IOW should it be smth like
this:
anon = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_ANON) +
(sc->force_deactivate ? node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_ANON) : 0);
?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-12 19:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-07 20:53 [PATCH 0/3] mm: fix page aging across multiple cgroups Johannes Weiner
2019-11-07 20:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: vmscan: move file exhaustion detection to the node level Johannes Weiner
2019-11-10 22:02 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-11-10 22:09 ` Khadarnimcaan Khadarnimcaan
2019-11-07 20:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: vmscan: detect file thrashing at the reclaim root Johannes Weiner
2019-11-11 2:01 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-11-12 17:45 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-11-12 18:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-11-12 18:59 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-11-12 20:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-11-14 23:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2019-11-15 16:07 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-11-15 16:52 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-02-12 10:28 ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-02-12 18:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-14 1:17 ` Joonsoo Kim
2019-11-07 20:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: vmscan: enforce inactive:active ratio " Johannes Weiner
2019-11-11 2:15 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-11-12 18:00 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-11-12 19:13 ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2019-11-12 20:34 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-11-15 0:29 ` Shakeel Butt
2019-11-27 22:16 ` Shakeel Butt
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