From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@suse.com,
josef@toxicpanda.com, jack@suse.cz, ldufour@linux.ibm.com,
laurent.dufour@fr.ibm.com, michel@lespinasse.org,
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minchan@google.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
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linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: handle swap page faults if the faulting page can be locked
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 14:51:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpF2idZUjON6TZw4NV+himmACMGGE=2jgmt=fgAXv6L5Pg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZDm4P37XXyMBOMdZ@casper.infradead.org>
On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 1:32 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 12:48:54PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > - We can call migration_entry_wait(). This will wait for PG_locked to
> > > become clear (in migration_entry_wait_on_locked()). As previously
> > > discussed offline, I think this is safe to do while holding the VMA
> > > locked.
>
> Just to be clear, this particular use of PG_locked is not during I/O,
> it's during page migration. This is a few orders of magnitude
> different.
>
> > > - We can call swap_readpage() if we allocate a new folio. I haven't
> > > traced through all this code to tell if it's OK.
>
> ... whereas this will wait for I/O. If we decide that's not OK, we'll
> need to test for FAULT_FLAG_VMA_LOCK and bail out of this path.
>
> > > So ... I believe this is all OK, but we're definitely now willing to
> > > wait for I/O from the swap device while holding the VMA lock when we
> > > weren't before. And maybe we should make a bigger deal of it in the
> > > changelog.
> > >
> > > And maybe we shouldn't just be failing the folio_lock_or_retry(),
> > > maybe we should be waiting for the folio lock with the VMA locked.
> >
> > Wouldn't that cause holding the VMA lock for the duration of swap I/O
> > (something you said we want to avoid in the previous paragraph) and
> > effectively undo d065bd810b6d ("mm: retry page fault when blocking on
> > disk transfer") for VMA locks?
>
> I'm not certain we want to avoid holding the VMA lock for the duration
> of an I/O. Here's how I understand the rationale for avoiding holding
> the mmap_lock while we perform I/O (before the existence of the VMA lock):
>
> - If everybody is doing page faults, there is no specific problem;
> we all hold the lock for read and multiple page faults can be handled
> in parallel.
> - As soon as one thread attempts to manipulate the tree (eg calls
> mmap()), all new readers must wait (as the rwsem is fair), and the
> writer must wait for all existing readers to finish. That's
> potentially milliseconds for an I/O during which time all page faults
> stop.
>
> Now we have the per-VMA lock, faults which can be handled without taking
> the mmap_lock can still be satisfied, as long as that VMA is not being
> modified. It is rare for a real application to take a page fault on a
> VMA which is being modified.
>
> So modifications to the tree will generally not take VMA locks on VMAs
> which are currently handling faults, and new faults will generally not
> find a VMA which is write-locked.
>
> When we find a locked folio (presumably for I/O, although folios are
> locked for other reasons), if we fall back to taking the mmap_lock
> for read, we increase contention on the mmap_lock and make the page
> fault wait on any mmap() operation.
Do you mean we increase mmap_lock contention by holding the mmap_lock
between the start of pagefault retry and until we drop it in
__folio_lock_or_retry?
> If we simply sleep waiting for the
> I/O, we make any mmap() operation _which touches this VMA_ wait for
> the I/O to complete. But I think that's OK, because new page faults
> can continue to be serviced ... as long as they don't need to take
> the mmap_lock.
Ok, so we will potentially block VMA writers for the duration of the I/O...
Stupid question: why was this a bigger problem for mmap_lock?
Potentially our address space can consist of only one anon VMA, so
locking that VMA vs mmap_lock should be the same from swap pagefault
POV. Maybe mmap_lock is taken for write in some other important cases
when VMA lock is not needed?
>
> So ... I think what we _really_ want here is ...
>
> +++ b/mm/filemap.c
> @@ -1690,7 +1690,8 @@ static int __folio_lock_async(struct folio *folio, struct wait_page_queue *wait)
> bool __folio_lock_or_retry(struct folio *folio, struct mm_struct *mm,
> unsigned int flags)
> {
> - if (fault_flag_allow_retry_first(flags)) {
> + if (!(flags & FAULT_FLAG_VMA_LOCK) &&
> + fault_flag_allow_retry_first(flags)) {
> /*
> * CAUTION! In this case, mmap_lock is not released
> * even though return 0.
> @@ -1710,7 +1711,8 @@ bool __folio_lock_or_retry(struct folio *folio, struct mm_struct *mm,
>
> ret = __folio_lock_killable(folio);
> if (ret) {
> - mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> + if (!(flags & FAULT_FLAG_VMA_LOCK))
> + mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> return false;
> }
> } else {
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-14 21:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-14 18:00 Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-04-14 18:32 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-04-14 18:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-14 19:48 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-04-14 20:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-14 21:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2023-04-15 0:34 ` Hillf Danton
2023-04-15 2:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-17 0:49 ` Alistair Popple
2023-04-17 18:13 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-04-17 23:33 ` Alistair Popple
2023-04-17 23:50 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-04-18 1:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 17:54 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
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