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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org,
	liam.howlett@oracle.com,  mhocko@suse.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mjguzik@gmail.com,  oliver.sang@intel.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, david@redhat.com,
	 peterx@redhat.com, oleg@redhat.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	paulmck@kernel.org,  brauner@kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	hdanton@sina.com, hughd@google.com,  minchan@google.com,
	jannh@google.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	 souravpanda@google.com, pasha.tatashin@soleen.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 07:45:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpEe9Sas46r1QUEe7Bu3QD5atKUxy3E5Z8Xg66aZS81suQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d34da83-92eb-4666-816c-73a0e831aa89@lucifer.local>

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 7:02 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 02:28:16PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 11:46:32AM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > Back when per-vma locks were introduces, vm_lock was moved out of
> > > vm_area_struct in [1] because of the performance regression caused by
> > > false cacheline sharing. Recent investigation [2] revealed that the
> > > regressions is limited to a rather old Broadwell microarchitecture and
> > > even there it can be mitigated by disabling adjacent cacheline
> > > prefetching, see [3].
> >
> > I don't see a motivating reason as to why we want to do this? We increase
> > memory usage here which is not good, but later lock optimisation mitigates
> > it, but why wouldn't we just do the lock optimisations and use less memory
> > overall?
>
> I worded this badly. To clarify:
>
> I don't see a motivating reason _in the commit message_ as to why we want
> to do this.
>
> I am certain there are, in fact Mateusz and Vlastimil have provided them.
>
> So my review is - let's just put these there :)

Yeah, I had trouble wording all the reasons because in my head it was
simply "the right thing to do". Now with all your input my job has
become much easier :) Thanks folks!


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-13 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-12 19:46 [PATCH v2 0/5] " Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:10   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:30     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:28   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 14:45     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 14:58       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:09         ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 14:53     ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-11-13 14:59       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:45       ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2024-11-13 15:42     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: mark vma as detached until it's added into vma tree Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:37     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  2:57   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  5:08     ` Hugh Dickins
2024-11-13  6:03       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  6:52         ` Hugh Dickins
2024-11-13  8:19           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  8:58   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 12:38     ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 13:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 15:22         ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 15:25           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 15:29             ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 15:47               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 19:05                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-14 16:18                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-14 16:21                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 16:44           ` Jann Horn
2024-11-13 20:59             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 21:23               ` Jann Horn
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] docs/mm: document latest changes to vm_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:51   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:46     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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