From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A285ECAAD5 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 06:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 8D0F26B0072; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 02:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 87FA46B0073; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 02:49:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 746F28D0001; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 02:49:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0013.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.13]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627E96B0072 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 02:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpin15.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6933D1C71FA for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 06:49:50 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 79887992940.15.778EFC4 Received: from mail-yb1-f171.google.com (mail-yb1-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by imf26.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128EF140095 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 06:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb1-f171.google.com with SMTP id 130so19391520ybz.9 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 23:49:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=6UU7RPsFxQr+5ujpTkN8WcG542NNzl57+boNHvVA5zY=; b=JG/SHVRfqPRHCrjuBmlApXDX/0abpJphKrT6tyZKJBPfjdSoDudABKV77zHlEN88Fn gauZaKg028mQXz4IhYxWZ6Al32CCP7yJWGueoM6BfqmIyFGbhNHc42e0XX3fkUwzZeB7 iahq4zbGmhiQP33NCZ4T4eKaA3vZuTmEr9lnFAypcBd+txISnaxXaWXjTNPPmjg9GajS 6tRoG+4jxmfz1oriGaY/Kn1wnCqhPvgpDkXyvbhPKfNgBFNHlvzvS89+D7eIK/a1Yl6T kxR18XZMyg4CCoy23A8LpUnI5xLUkeiu/ZUM9+hqU3uz7MWOC86ALqrtypYUZ97mcz9b OvFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=6UU7RPsFxQr+5ujpTkN8WcG542NNzl57+boNHvVA5zY=; b=VovAnKsp8N1zUMjk6+i3BazJVJL1cngHPNMOWNbmLOo1ALI+PEIPrXA4IXqjICa864 62AwSyLKu2cJ5wvva6bVcgRCZFgsK/pydQn1qnBxMc06UpHCAv6uzQIH2A6S2PcmAECB 8ONmOROz7HqidBmoK9P8OSOTJzHZOXKUjEHcWZYRyzOlC2w7cEbxYTdaiOZNFZ/FrLvK VvrvmgBVmWwyreV0xMdhe2Du3/I6mNsPvxbhud9ntqtZvGIwvQKxoeScOgFPqqFEJvqh bkFzR29t2IYWb38zNliWXi/qNuT6gb7XHEdkSlmFfn3PkGHJw0YjcEFIjfrLXHPkRIHc dXeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo245pC2Vh/SMtz3AXjTqzqqB55xd9RVfrZQKjaa321ZkqOyPn6h ZpHklngw410UkqTlJIM9gTb+flhDUzWQrdBwNGLJHw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR5jgN0SarKose7cXaAc78GK8TgcCf+kCWZDJ6j/hZNw94xbAsDdKa9I2VH+YZqtbSZxUJOMS41d9AU0E7sKk2c= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:cc4:0:b0:6ae:2a6c:59e6 with SMTP id e4-20020a5b0cc4000000b006ae2a6c59e6mr1980963ybr.59.1662619789134; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 23:49:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220901201502.sn6223bayzwferxv@moria.home.lan> <20220905234649.525vorzx27ybypsn@kmo-framework> <20220906182058.iijmpzu4rtxowy37@kmo-framework> <20220907130323.rwycrntnckc6h43n@kmo-framework> <20220907094306.3383dac2@gandalf.local.home> <20220908063548.u4lqkhquuvkwzvda@kmo-framework> In-Reply-To: <20220908063548.u4lqkhquuvkwzvda@kmo-framework> From: Suren Baghdasaryan Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 23:49:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications To: Kent Overstreet Cc: Steven Rostedt , Michal Hocko , Mel Gorman , Peter Zijlstra , Andrew Morton , Vlastimil Babka , Johannes Weiner , Roman Gushchin , Davidlohr Bueso , Matthew Wilcox , "Liam R. Howlett" , David Vernet , Juri Lelli , Laurent Dufour , Peter Xu , David Hildenbrand , Jens Axboe , mcgrof@kernel.org, masahiroy@kernel.org, nathan@kernel.org, changbin.du@intel.com, ytcoode@gmail.com, Vincent Guittot , Dietmar Eggemann , Benjamin Segall , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira , Valentin Schneider , Christopher Lameter , Pekka Enberg , Joonsoo Kim , 42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, Alexander Potapenko , Marco Elver , Dmitry Vyukov , Shakeel Butt , Muchun Song , arnd@arndb.de, jbaron@akamai.com, David Rientjes , Minchan Kim , Kalesh Singh , kernel-team , linux-mm , iommu@lists.linux.dev, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, LKML Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ARC-Seal: i=1; s=arc-20220608; d=hostedemail.com; t=1662619790; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=R29KWLpw9XkX0xBwk6JkAbjOK6EAe0F5WIFJ8sf55JBi/zS+n/Z2WFYrcRtjsxIVyrPeNJ PWj9He5UaSLcf+VZyhAxU7s4oQyE0fzG9GkdGnx21DIYvBjxWJJGR+IEuHaLn8OPfxPRRW WBiAeKg1E7t4UFwkhuVjd1SkVB1AsLo= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; imf26.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=google.com header.s=20210112 header.b="JG/SHVRf"; spf=pass (imf26.hostedemail.com: domain of surenb@google.com designates 209.85.219.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=surenb@google.com; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=google.com ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hostedemail.com; s=arc-20220608; t=1662619790; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=6UU7RPsFxQr+5ujpTkN8WcG542NNzl57+boNHvVA5zY=; b=7DQhpP8PqctwgzIjntBqk0gKr0jFo1RvYQ+EQ5gnDBOuA3Xte7WU/VJehYVUlSy61Ss8ft cx9+aiQG9YQWHcLYBh70suXJKP/OwkeD0InxI420qZLNg9NQMs7bsxM1lj/sXEMhePAY7a 6z4TsiVDdNFEUllkDNlCNnbuSspBUIc= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 128EF140095 Authentication-Results: imf26.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=google.com header.s=20210112 header.b="JG/SHVRf"; spf=pass (imf26.hostedemail.com: domain of surenb@google.com designates 209.85.219.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=surenb@google.com; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=google.com X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam06 X-Stat-Signature: drfd8697psn7hqga963u7h4zkw51xarx X-HE-Tag: 1662619789-440543 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 11:35 PM Kent Overstreet wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 09:45:18AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:04:28 -0400 > > Kent Overstreet wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 01:00:09PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > Hmm, it seems that further discussion doesn't really make much sense > > > > here. I know how to use my time better. > > > > > > Just a thought, but I generally find it more productive to propose ideas than to > > > just be disparaging. > > > > > > > But it's not Michal's job to do so. He's just telling you that the given > > feature is not worth the burden. He's telling you the issues that he has > > with the patch set. It's the submitter's job to address those concerns and > > not the maintainer's to tell you how to make it better. > > > > When Linus tells us that a submission is crap, we don't ask him how to make > > it less crap, we listen to why he called it crap, and then rewrite to be > > not so crappy. If we cannot figure it out, it doesn't get in. > > When Linus tells someone a submission is crap, he _always_ has a sound, and > _specific_ technical justification for doing so. > > "This code is going to be a considerable maintenance burden" is vapid, and lazy. > It's the kind of feedback made by someone who has looked at the number of lines > of code a patch touches and not much more. I would really appreciate if everyone could please stick to the technical side of the conversation. That way we can get some constructive feedback. Everything else is not helpful and at best is a distraction. Maintenance burden is a price we pay and I think it's the prerogative of the maintainers to take that into account. Our job is to prove that the price is worth paying. > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to kernel-team+unsubscribe@android.com. >