From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 16/17] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:17:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpE=W4RUwj7yosa3wWzi=EbLdts=1VHV1f-Wy04ZAc9UDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22c002b5-9aca-460b-90fb-772adb9e5f61@suse.cz>
On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 11:00 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 1/8/25 19:44, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 10:21 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/26/24 18:07, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> >> > To enable SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU for vma cache we need to ensure that
> >> > object reuse before RCU grace period is over will be detected by
> >> > lock_vma_under_rcu(). Current checks are sufficient as long as vma
> >> > is detached before it is freed. Implement this guarantee by calling
> >> > vma_ensure_detached() before vma is freed and make vm_area_cachep
> >> > SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU. This will facilitate vm_area_struct reuse and
> >> > will minimize the number of call_rcu() calls.
> >> >
> >> > Signed-off-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> >>
> >> I've noticed vm_area_dup() went back to the approach of "we memcpy
> >> everything including vma_lock and detached (now the vm_refcnt) followed by a
> >> vma_init_lock(..., true) that does refcount_set(&vma->vm_refcnt, 0);
> >> Is that now safe against a racing lock_vma_under_rcu()? I think it's not?
> >
> > I think it's safe because vma created by vm_area_dup() is not in the
> > vma tree yet, so lock_vma_under_rcu() does not see it until it's added
> > into the tree. Note also that at the time when the new vma gets added
> > into the tree, the vma has to be write-locked
> > (vma_iter_store()->vma_mark_attached()->vma_assert_write_locked()).
> > So, lock_vma_under_rcu() won't use the new vma even after it's added
> > into the tree until we unlock the vma.
>
>
> What about something like this, where vma starts out as attached as thus
> reachable:
Huh, very clever sequence.
>
> A: B: C:
> lock_vma_under_rcu()
> vma = mas_walk()
> vma_start_read()
> vm_lock_seq == mm->mm_lock_seq.sequence
>
vma_start_write
> vma detached and freed
>
> vm_area_dup()
> - vma reallocated
> - memcpy() copies non-zero refcnt from orig
>
> __refcount_inc_not_zero_limited() succeeds
>
> vma_init_lock();
> refcount_set(&vma->vm_refcnt, 0);
>
> - vm_lock_seq validation fails (could it even succeed?)
It can succeed if task C drops the vma write-lock before A validates
vm_lock_seq.
> vma_refcount_put(vma);
> __refcount_dec_and_test makes refcount -1
Yeah, I guess I will have to keep vm_refcnt at 0 across reuse, so
memcpy() in vm_area_dup() should be replaced. I'll make the changes.
Thanks for analyzing this, Vlastimil!
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-08 19:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-26 17:06 [PATCH v7 00/17] move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 17:06 ` [PATCH v7 01/17] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 14:59 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-12-26 17:06 ` [PATCH v7 02/17] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 14:59 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-12-26 17:06 ` [PATCH v7 03/17] mm: mark vma as detached until it's added into vma tree Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 15:01 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-12-26 17:06 ` [PATCH v7 04/17] mm: modify vma_iter_store{_gfp} to indicate if it's storing a new vma Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-07 16:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-07 16:49 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-07 17:12 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 17:06 ` [PATCH v7 05/17] mm: mark vmas detached upon exit Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-07 17:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-07 17:13 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 17:06 ` [PATCH v7 06/17] mm/nommu: fix the last places where vma is not locked before being attached Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-07 17:51 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-07 18:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 17:06 ` [PATCH v7 07/17] types: move struct rcuwait into types.h Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-27 18:35 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-01-08 15:02 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 08/17] mm: allow vma_start_read_locked/vma_start_read_locked_nested to fail Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-07 17:28 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-07 17:31 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 09/17] mm: move mmap_init_lock() out of the header file Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-07 17:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 10/17] mm: uninline the main body of vma_start_write() Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-07 17:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-07 17:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-07 18:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-08 4:39 ` Eric Naim
2025-04-08 6:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-08 6:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-08 7:52 ` Eric Naim
2025-04-08 17:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 11/17] refcount: introduce __refcount_{add|inc}_not_zero_limited Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 9:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-08 15:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-08 15:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-10 13:32 ` David Laight
2025-01-10 16:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 12/17] mm: replace vm_lock and detached flag with a reference count Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-06 0:38 ` Wei Yang
2025-01-06 17:26 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-07 18:44 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-07 19:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 11:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-08 17:53 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 13/17] mm/debug: print vm_refcnt state when dumping the vma Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 19:40 ` kernel test robot
2024-12-26 19:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 19:54 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 20:04 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-26 20:13 ` kernel test robot
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 14/17] mm: remove extra vma_numab_state_init() call Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 18:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 15/17] mm: prepare lock_vma_under_rcu() for vma reuse possibility Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 18:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 16/17] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 14:55 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-01-08 18:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-08 18:44 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 19:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-08 19:17 ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2024-12-26 17:07 ` [PATCH v7 17/17] docs/mm: document latest changes to vm_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-08 15:46 ` Liam R. Howlett
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