From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: David Wang <00107082@163.com>
Cc: Yueyang Pan <pyyjason@gmail.com>,
Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, kent.overstreet@linux.dev,
vbabka@suse.cz, hannes@cmpxchg.org, rientjes@google.com,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, harry.yoo@oracle.com,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev, pasha.tatashin@soleen.com,
souravpanda@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] alloc_tag: mark inaccurate allocation counters in /proc/allocinfo output
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 11:13:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpE=0jpana5qryqwPsuoj_8tCEMWFMcEBTB5-9Lyu_j-Tw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <613698f0.a994.19939d88e1c.Coremail.00107082@163.com>
On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 10:35 AM David Wang <00107082@163.com> wrote:
>
>
> At 2025-09-12 01:25:05, "Yueyang Pan" <pyyjason@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 09:18:29AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 9:00 AM Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 11/09/2025 16:47, Yueyang Pan wrote:
> >> > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 11:03:50PM +0800, David Wang wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> At 2025-09-10 07:49:42, "Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> While rare, memory allocation profiling can contain inaccurate counters
> >> > >>> if slab object extension vector allocation fails. That allocation might
> >> > >>> succeed later but prior to that, slab allocations that would have used
> >> > >>> that object extension vector will not be accounted for. To indicate
> >> > >>> incorrect counters, mark them with an asterisk in the /proc/allocinfo
> >> > >>> output.
> >> > >>> Bump up /proc/allocinfo version to reflect change in the file format.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Example output with invalid counters:
> >> > >>> allocinfo - version: 2.0
> >> > >>> 0 0 arch/x86/kernel/kdebugfs.c:105 func:create_setup_data_nodes
> >> > >>> 0 0 arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c:2090 func:alternatives_smp_module_add
> >> > >>> 0* 0* arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c:127 func:__its_alloc
> >> > >>> 0 0 arch/x86/kernel/fpu/regset.c:160 func:xstateregs_set
> >> > >>> 0 0 arch/x86/kernel/fpu/xstate.c:1590 func:fpstate_realloc
> >> > >>> 0 0 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/aperfmperf.c:379 func:arch_enable_hybrid_capacity_scale
> >> > >>> 0 0 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/amd_cache_disable.c:258 func:init_amd_l3_attrs
> >> > >>> 49152* 48* arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c:2709 func:mce_device_create
> >> > >>> 32768 1 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/genpool.c:132 func:mce_gen_pool_create
> >> > >>> 0 0 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/amd.c:1341 func:mce_threshold_create_device
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hi,
> >> > >> The changes may break some client tools, mine included....
> >> > >> I don't mind adjusting my tools, but still
> >> > >> Is it acceptable to change
> >> > >> 49152* 48* arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c:2709 func:mce_device_create
> >> > >> to
> >> > >> +49152 +48 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c:2709 func:mce_device_create*
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The '+' sign make it still standout when view from a terminal, and client tools, not all of them though, might not need any changes.
> >> > >> And when client want to filter out inaccurate data items, it could be done by checking the tailing '*" of func name.
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree with David on this point. We already have monitoring tool built on top
> >> > > of this output across meta fleet. Ideally we would like to keep the format of
> >> > > of size and calls the same, even for future version, because adding a * will
> >> > > change the format from int to str, which leads to change over the regex parser
> >> > > many places.
> >> > >
> >> > > I think simply adding * to the end of function name or filename is sufficient
> >> > > as they are already str.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Instead of:
> >> >
> >> > 49152* 48* arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c:2709 func:mce_device_create
> >> >
> >> > Could we do something like:
> >> >
> >> > 49152 48 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c:2709 func:mce_device_create(inaccurate)
> >>
> >> If there is a postprocessing then this would break sometimes later
> >> when the function name is parsed, right? So IMO that just postpones
> >> the breakage.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > This should hopefully not require any changes to the tools that are consuming this file.
> >> > I think it might be better to use "(inaccurate)" (without any space after function name) or
> >> > some other text instead of "+" or "*" to prevent breaking such tools. I dont think we need
> >> > to even increment allocinfo version number as well then?
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if we add a new column at the end like this:
> >>
> >> 49152 48 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c:2709
> >> func:mce_device_create [inaccurate]
> >>
> >> would that break the parsing tools?
> >> Well-designed parsers usually throw away additional fields which they
> >> don't know how to parse. WDYT?
> >>
> >
> >It would break the parse now as we count the number of string to decide if
> >there is an optional module name or not. I don't think it is a big
> >deal to fix though.
Uh, right. We do have module name as an optional field...
>
> The inconsistent of module name is really inconvenient for parsing.....
> Could we make changes to make it consistent, something like:
>
> diff --git a/lib/codetag.c b/lib/codetag.c
> index 545911cebd25..b8a4595adc95 100644
> --- a/lib/codetag.c
> +++ b/lib/codetag.c
> @@ -124,7 +124,7 @@ void codetag_to_text(struct seq_buf *out, struct codetag *ct)
> ct->filename, ct->lineno,
> ct->modname, ct->function);
> else
> - seq_buf_printf(out, "%s:%u func:%s",
> + seq_buf_printf(out, "%s:%u [kernel] func:%s",
Yeah, until someone creates a module called "kernel" :)
We could keep the name empty like this:
+ seq_buf_printf(out, "%s:%u [] func:%s",
but I'm not sure that's the best solution.
If we are really concerned about parsers, I could add an ioctl
interface to query the counters which are inaccurate. Would that be
better?
BTW, I have other ideas for ioctls, like filtering-out 0-sized
allocations and such.
> ct->filename, ct->lineno, ct->function);
> }
>
>
>
>
> >
> >I think one more important thing is probably to reach a consensus on
> >what format can be changed in the future, for example say, we can
> >keep adding columns but not change the format the type of one column.
> >With such consensus in mind, it will be easier to design the parser.
> >And I guess many companies will build parser upon this info for fleet-
> >wise collection.
> >
> >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> (There would be some corner cases, for example, the '+' sign may not needed when the value reach a negative value if some underflow bug happened)
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks
> >> > >> David.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Suggested-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> >> > >>> Signed-off-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> >> > >>> ---
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > > Pan
> >> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >Pan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-11 18:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-09 23:49 Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 5:18 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-10 6:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 14:50 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 21:02 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-11 12:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-11 15:03 ` David Wang
2025-09-11 15:47 ` [PATCH " Yueyang Pan
2025-09-11 16:00 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-11 16:18 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-11 17:25 ` Yueyang Pan
2025-09-11 17:35 ` David Wang
2025-09-11 18:13 ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2025-09-11 18:51 ` Yueyang Pan
2025-09-11 19:59 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-11 21:31 ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-12 0:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-12 2:02 ` David Wang
2025-09-12 10:52 ` Yueyang Pan
2025-09-12 19:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-15 18:31 ` Yueyang Pan
2025-09-15 23:04 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
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