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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, gaoxu <gaoxu2@honor.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>,  yipengxiang <yipengxiang@honor.com>,
	fengbaopeng <fengbaopeng@honor.com>,
	 Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: add lazyfree folio to lru tail
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:39:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpE7qsbFPseGzcBp27uNDhwtKLypKiPnqebE5=T8WDTyEQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4zgQ0MBV-yucc0-7BcDgjMMdCUDWK330mrd7SS4ej6Q8Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 2:47 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 8:46 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri 16-08-24 07:48:01, gaoxu wrote:
> > > Replace lruvec_add_folio with lruvec_add_folio_tail in the lru_lazyfree_fn:
> > > 1. The lazy-free folio is added to the LRU_INACTIVE_FILE list. If it's
> > >    moved to the LRU tail, it allows for faster release lazy-free folio and
> > >    reduces the impact on file refault.
> >
> > This has been discussed when MADV_FREE was introduced. The question was
> > whether this memory has a lower priority than other inactive memory that
> > has been marked that way longer ago. Also consider several MADV_FREE
> > users should they be LIFO from the reclaim POV?
>
> The priority of this memory compared to other inactive memory that has been
> marked for a longer time likely depends on the user's expectations - How soon
> do users expect MADV_FREE to be reclaimed compared with old file folios.
>
> art guys moved to MADV_FREE from MADV_DONTNEED without any
> useful performance data and reason in the changelog:
> https://android-review.googlesource.com/c/platform/art/+/2633132
>
> Since art is the Android Java heap, it can be quite large. This increases the
> likelihood of packing the file LRU and reduces the chances of reclaiming
> anonymous memory, which could result in more file re-faults while helping
> anonymous folio persist longer in memory.
>
> I am really curious why art guys have moved to MADV_FREE if we have
> an approach to reach them.

Adding Lokesh.
Lokesh, could you please comment on the reasoning behind the above
mentioned change?

>
> >
> > --
> > Michal Hocko
> > SUSE Labs
> >
>
> Thanks
> Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-23 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-16  7:48 gaoxu
2024-08-16 10:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-16 10:21   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 16:11     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-08-20 10:11 ` Barry Song
2024-08-20 11:53   ` 回复: " gaoxu
2024-08-20 21:46     ` Barry Song
2024-08-21 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-21 21:47   ` Barry Song
2024-08-23 23:39     ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2024-08-26 16:37       ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-08-26 19:54         ` Barry Song
2024-08-27  0:12           ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-08-27  2:21             ` Barry Song
2024-08-27  4:07             ` 回复: " gaoxu
2024-08-27 17:56               ` Minchan Kim
2024-08-29  3:55                 ` 回复: " gaoxu
2024-09-10  8:51                   ` Barry Song
2024-08-27  2:13         ` Hailong Liu
2024-08-27  2:18           ` Barry Song
2024-08-27  2:29             ` Hailong Liu
2024-09-09 22:22               ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-10  8:20                 ` Michal Hocko

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