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From: Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc@google.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Shi, Yang" <yang.shi@linaro.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>, Ning Qu <quning@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 00/29] THP-enabled tmpfs/shmem using compound pages
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 10:07:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJu=L59T4KsEORSOza7TBdnbWtypKgyuGUOZpzvMTENo4rmSqg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160419165024.GB24312@redhat.com>

Andrea, we provide the, ahem, adjustments to
transparent_hugepage_adjust. Rest assured we aggressively use mmu
notifiers with no further changes required.

As in: zero changes have been required in the lifetime (years) of
kvm+huge tmpfs at Google, other than mod'ing
transparent_hugepage_adjust.

As noted by Paolo, the additions to transparent_hugepage_adjust could
be lifted outside of kvm (into shmem.c? maybe) for any consumer of
huge tmpfs with mmu notifiers.

Andres

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 03:55:44PM -0700, Shi, Yang wrote:
>> Hi Kirill,
>>
>> Finally, I got some time to look into and try yours and Hugh's patches,
>> got two problems.
>
> One thing that come to mind to test is this: qemu with -machine
> accel=kvm -mem-path=/dev/shm/,share=on .
>
> The THP Compound approach in tmpfs may just happen to work already
> with KVM (or at worst it'd require minor adjustments) because it uses
> the exact same model KVM is already aware about from THP in anonymous
> memory, example from arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c:
>
> static void transparent_hugepage_adjust(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
>                                         gfn_t *gfnp, kvm_pfn_t *pfnp,
>                                         int *levelp)
> {
>         kvm_pfn_t pfn = *pfnp;
>         gfn_t gfn = *gfnp;
>         int level = *levelp;
>
>         /*
>          * Check if it's a transparent hugepage. If this would be an
>          * hugetlbfs page, level wouldn't be set to
>          * PT_PAGE_TABLE_LEVEL and there would be no adjustment done
>          * here.
>          */
>         if (!is_error_noslot_pfn(pfn) && !kvm_is_reserved_pfn(pfn) &&
>             level == PT_PAGE_TABLE_LEVEL &&
>             PageTransCompound(pfn_to_page(pfn)) &&
>             !mmu_gfn_lpage_is_disallowed(vcpu, gfn, PT_DIRECTORY_LEVEL)) {
>
> Not using two different models between THP in tmpfs and THP in anon is
> essential not just to significantly reduce the size of the kernel
> code, but also because THP knowledge can't be self contained in the
> mm/shmem.c file. Having to support two different models would
> complicate things for secondary MMU drivers (i.e. mmu notifer users)
> like KVM who also need to create huge mapping in the shadow pagetable
> layer in arch/x86/kvm if the primary MMU allows for it.
>
>> x86-64 and ARM64 with yours and Hugh's patches (linux-next tree), I got
>> the program execution time reduced by ~12% on x86-64, it looks very
>> impressive.
>
> Agreed, both patchset are impressive works and achieving amazing
> results!
>
> My view is that in terms of long-lived computation from userland point
> of view, both models are malleable enough and could achieve everything
> we need in the end, but as far as the overall kernel efficiency is
> concerned the compound model will always retain a slight advantage in
> performance by leveraging a native THP compound refcounting that
> requires just one atomic_inc/dec per THP mapcount instead of 512 of
> them. Other advantages of the compound model is that it's half in code
> size despite already including khugepaged (i.e. the same
> split_huge_page works for both tmpfs and anon) and like said above it
> won't introduce much complications for drivers like KVM as the model
> didn't change.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrea



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Andres Lagar-Cavilla | Google Kernel Team | andreslc@google.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-19 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-16  0:23 Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 01/29] thp, mlock: update unevictable-lru.txt Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 02/29] mm: do not pass mm_struct into handle_mm_fault Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 03/29] mm: introduce fault_env Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 04/29] mm: postpone page table allocation until we have page to map Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 05/29] rmap: support file thp Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 06/29] mm: introduce do_set_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 07/29] thp, vmstats: add counters for huge file pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 08/29] thp: support file pages in zap_huge_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 09/29] thp: handle file pages in split_huge_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 10/29] thp: handle file COW faults Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 11/29] thp: skip file huge pmd on copy_huge_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 12/29] thp: prepare change_huge_pmd() for file thp Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 13/29] thp: run vma_adjust_trans_huge() outside i_mmap_rwsem Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 14/29] thp: file pages support for split_huge_page() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 15/29] thp, mlock: do not mlock PTE-mapped file huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 16/29] vmscan: split file huge pages before paging them out Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 17/29] page-flags: relax policy for PG_mappedtodisk and PG_reclaim Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 18/29] radix-tree: implement radix_tree_maybe_preload_order() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 19/29] filemap: prepare find and delete operations for huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 20/29] truncate: handle file thp Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 21/29] mm, rmap: account shmem thp pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 22/29] shmem: prepare huge= mount option and sysfs knob Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 23/29] shmem: get_unmapped_area align huge page Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 24/29] shmem: add huge pages support Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 25/29] shmem, thp: respect MADV_{NO,}HUGEPAGE for file mappings Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 26/29] thp: update Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 27/29] thp: extract khugepaged from mm/huge_memory.c Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:23 ` [PATCHv7 28/29] khugepaged: move up_read(mmap_sem) out of khugepaged_alloc_page() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-16  0:24 ` [PATCHv7 29/29] khugepaged: add support of collapse for tmpfs/shmem pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-04-18 22:55 ` [PATCHv7 00/29] THP-enabled tmpfs/shmem using compound pages Shi, Yang
2016-04-19 14:33   ` Jerome Marchand
2016-04-19 16:11     ` Shi, Yang
2016-04-19 16:50   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-04-19 17:07     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla [this message]
2016-04-24  5:46       ` Wincy Van
2016-04-25 13:30         ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2016-04-26 14:02           ` Wincy Van
2016-04-27 15:48       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-04-19 23:48     ` Shi, Yang
2016-04-20  8:31   ` Hugh Dickins

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