From: Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>, Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
bingfangguo@tencent.com, lenohou@gmail.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, axelrasmussen@google.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
weixugc@google.com, wjl.linux@gmail.com, yuzhao@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mglru: fix cgroup OOM during MGLRU state switching
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:51:48 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJj2-QEO=9Nt+HP6m=xtFD8qcXCdGCRmESmcs0haeiMdqqTA1Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbB3rQ2b7ABqFegt2afYRL7KjpWREucrhOYfTT=onV1+Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Yafang,
On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 8:36 AM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 5:48 PM Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 5:20 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 4:25 PM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The challenge we're currently facing is that we don't yet know which
> > > > workloads would benefit from it ;)
> > > > We do want to enable mglru on our production servers, but first we
> > > > need to address the risk of OOM during the switch—that's exactly why
> > > > we're proposing this patch.
> > >
> > > Nobody objects to your intention to fix it. I’m curious: to what
> > > extent do we want to fix it? Do we aim to merely reduce the probability
> > > of OOM and other mistakes, or do we want a complete fix that makes
> > > the dynamic on/off fully safe?
> >
> > Yeah, I'm glad that more people are trying MGLRU and improving it.
> >
> > We also have an downstream fix for the OOM on switch issue, but that's
> > mostly as a fallback in case MGLRU doesn't work well, our goal is
> > still try to enable MGLRU as much as possible,
>
> Our goals are aligned.
> Before enabling mglru, we must first ensure it won't cause OOM errors
> across multiple servers. We propose fixing this because, during our
> previous mglru enablement, many instances of a single service OOM'd
> simultaneously—potentially leading to data loss for that service.
Would it be possible to drain the jobs away from the machine before
switching LRUs? The MGLRU kill-switch could be improved, but making
the switch more or less "hitless" would require significant work. Is
the use case a one-time switch from active/inactive to MGLRU?
I do want to note that OOMs causing data loss is not really the kernel's fault.
Thanks,
Yuanchu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-02 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-28 16:10 Leno Hou
2026-02-28 18:58 ` Andrew Morton
2026-02-28 19:12 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-28 19:23 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-28 20:15 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-28 21:28 ` Barry Song
2026-02-28 22:41 ` Barry Song
2026-03-01 4:10 ` Barry Song
2026-03-02 5:50 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02 6:58 ` Barry Song
2026-03-02 7:43 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02 8:00 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-02 8:15 ` Barry Song
2026-03-02 8:25 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02 9:20 ` Barry Song
2026-03-02 9:47 ` Kairui Song
2026-03-02 14:35 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02 17:51 ` Yuanchu Xie [this message]
2026-03-02 16:26 ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-02 8:03 ` Barry Song
2026-03-02 8:13 ` Yafang Shao
2026-03-02 8:20 ` Barry Song
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