From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Jingbo Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, josef@toxicpanda.com,
bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] fuse: remove tmp folio for writebacks and internal rb tree
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 11:57:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegv_Dyx_6+A2dgUuO7TA8nR+AUExCdFA6wKjm6xVYvyMGg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8eec0912-7a6c-4387-b9be-6718f438a111@linux.alibaba.com>
On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 at 11:44, Jingbo Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> 1) a non-malicious fuse daemon wants to allocate some memory when
> processing a fuse request, which in turn leads to memory reclaim and
> thus waiting on the writeback of fuse dirty pages - a deadlock here.
> This is reasonable and also the target scenario that this series wants
> to fix.
>
> 2) a malicious fuse daemon refuses to process any request; or a buggy or
> not well-written fuse daemon as you described, e.g. may call sync(2)
> itself or access page cache backed by itself, then
> 2.1) any unrelated user process attempting to initiate a sync(2)
> itself, will hang there. This scenario is also unexpected and shall be
> fixed.
Exactly.
We only care about
- properly written server not deadlocking
- buggy or malicious server not denying service to unrelated tasks,
where unrelated means it would not otherwise be able to access the
fuse mount. Typically this separation is done with a user namespace or
-oallow_other.
Thanks,
Miklos
> 2.2) any direct user of fuse filesystem (e.g. access files backed by
> fuse filesystem) will hang in this case. IMHO this is expected, and the
> impact is affordable as it is controlled within certain range (the
> direct user of the fs).
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Jingbo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-16 9:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-14 18:22 [PATCH v2 0/2] fuse: remove extra page copies in writeback Joanne Koong
2024-10-14 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: skip reclaiming folios in writeback contexts that may trigger deadlock Joanne Koong
2024-10-14 18:38 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-14 21:04 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-14 23:57 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-15 16:59 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-14 18:22 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] fuse: remove tmp folio for writebacks and internal rb tree Joanne Koong
2024-10-15 10:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-15 17:06 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-15 19:17 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-16 9:44 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-10-16 9:57 ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2024-10-16 9:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-16 17:52 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-16 18:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-16 21:27 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-17 13:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-18 5:31 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-21 10:15 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-21 17:01 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-22 15:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-21 21:05 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-24 16:54 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-25 1:38 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-10-25 15:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-25 17:36 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-25 18:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-25 18:19 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-28 2:02 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-10-25 18:47 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-28 2:28 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-10-28 21:57 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-25 22:40 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-28 21:58 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-30 9:32 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-30 16:04 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-30 16:21 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-30 17:02 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-30 17:27 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-30 17:35 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-30 21:56 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-30 22:17 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-30 22:51 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-31 0:30 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-31 19:06 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-31 20:06 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-31 21:52 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-31 22:38 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-11-06 23:37 ` Joanne Koong
2024-11-06 23:56 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-11-01 11:44 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-11-01 20:54 ` Joanne Koong
2024-11-04 8:09 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-10-29 22:04 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-16 9:56 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-10-16 10:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-18 1:30 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-18 5:57 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-18 19:57 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-18 20:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-21 9:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-18 9:24 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-10-18 20:29 ` Joanne Koong
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