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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,  Chao Yu <chao@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
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	Ryusuke Konishi <konishi.ryusuke@gmail.com>,
	 "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
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	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] Remove inode_congested()
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:37:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegt-igF8HqsDUcMzfU0jYv8WpofLy0Uv0YnXLzsfx=tkGg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <164325158954.29787.7856652136298668100.stgit@noble.brown>

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 03:47, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
>
> inode_congested() reports if the backing-device for the inode is
> congested.  Few bdi report congestion any more, only ceph, fuse, and
> nfs.  Having support just for those is unlikely to be useful.
>
> The places which test inode_congested() or it variants like
> inode_write_congested(), avoid initiating IO if congestion is present.
> We now have to rely on other places in the stack to back off, or abort
> requests - we already do for everything except these 3 filesystems.
>
> So remove inode_congested() and related functions, and remove the call
> sites, assuming that inode_congested() always returns 'false'.

Looks to me this is going to "break" fuse; e.g. readahead path will go
ahead and try to submit more requests, even if the queue is getting
congested.   In this case the readahead submission will eventually
block, which is counterproductive.

I think we should *first* make sure all call sites are substituted
with appropriate mechanisms in the affected filesystems and as a last
step remove the superfluous bdi congestion mechanism.

You are saying that all fs except these three already have such
mechanisms in place, right?  Can you elaborate on that?

Thanks,
Miklos


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-28  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-27  2:46 [PATCH 0/9] Remove remaining parts of congestions tracking code NeilBrown
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 8/9] block/bfq-iosched.c: use "false" rather than "BLK_RW_ASYNC" NeilBrown
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 6/9] fuse: don't set/clear bdi_congested NeilBrown
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 7/9] NFS: remove congestion control NeilBrown
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 1/9] Remove inode_congested() NeilBrown
2022-01-28  9:37   ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2022-01-28 21:36     ` NeilBrown
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 2/9] Remove bdi_congested() and wb_congested() and related functions NeilBrown
2022-01-27  9:54   ` kernel test robot
2022-01-27 22:10   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 4/9] f2f2: replace some congestion_wait() calls with io_schedule_timeout() NeilBrown
2022-01-28  1:27   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 5/9] cephfs: don't set/clear bdi_congestion NeilBrown
2022-01-27 11:12   ` Jeff Layton
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 9/9] Remove congestion tracking framework NeilBrown
2022-01-27  2:46 ` [PATCH 3/9] f2fs: change retry waiting for f2fs_write_single_data_page() NeilBrown
2022-01-28  1:34   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2022-01-27 22:42 ` [PATCH 0/9] Remove remaining parts of congestions tracking code Andrew Morton

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