From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys010amx122.postini.com [74.125.245.122]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AA196B0044 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id s11so1674587qaa.14 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 02:07:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50ACA634.5000007@gmail.com> References: <1353433362.85184.YahooMailNeo@web141101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20121120182500.GH1408@quack.suse.cz> <1353485020.53500.YahooMailNeo@web141104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1353485630.17455.YahooMailNeo@web141106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50AC9220.70202@gmail.com> <20121121090204.GA9064@localhost> <50ACA209.9000101@gmail.com> <1353491880.11679.YahooMailNeo@web141102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50ACA634.5000007@gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?TWV0aW4gRMO2xZ9sw7w=?= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:07:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem in Page Cache Replacement Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Jaegeuk Hanse Cc: Fengguang Wu , Jan Kara , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Jaegeuk Hanse w= rote: > > On 11/21/2012 05:58 PM, metin d wrote: > > Hi Fengguang, > > I run tests and attached the results. The line below I guess shows the da= ta-1 page caches. > > 0x000000080000006c 6584051 25718 __RU_lA___________________P___= _____ referenced,uptodate,lru,active,private > > > I thinks this is just one state of page cache pages. But why these page caches are in this state as opposed to other page caches. From the results I conclude that: data-1 pages are in state : referenced,uptodate,lru,active,private data-2 pages are in state : referenced,uptodate,lru,mappedtodisk > > > > > Metin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jaegeuk Hanse > To: Fengguang Wu > Cc: metin d ; Jan Kara ; "linux-kernel@vg= er.kernel.org" ; "linux-mm@kvack.org" > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: Problem in Page Cache Replacement > > On 11/21/2012 05:02 PM, Fengguang Wu wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 04:34:40PM +0800, Jaegeuk Hanse wrote: > >> Cc Fengguang Wu. > >> > >> On 11/21/2012 04:13 PM, metin d wrote: > >>>> Curious. Added linux-mm list to CC to catch more attention. If yo= u run > >>>> echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches does it evict data-1 pages from mem= ory? > >>> I'm guessing it'd evict the entries, but am wondering if we could run= any more diagnostics before trying this. > >>> > >>> We regularly use a setup where we have two databases; one gets used f= requently and the other one about once a month. It seems like the memory ma= nager keeps unused pages in memory at the expense of frequently used databa= se's performance. > >>> My understanding was that under memory pressure from heavily > >>> accessed pages, unused pages would eventually get evicted. Is there > >>> anything else we can try on this host to understand why this is > >>> happening? > > We may debug it this way. > > > > 1) run 'fadvise data-2 0 0 dontneed' to drop data-2 cached pages > > (please double check via /proc/vmstat whether it does the expected w= ork) > > > > 2) run 'page-types -r' with root, to view the page status for the > > remaining pages of data-1 > > > > The fadvise tool comes from Andrew Morton's ext3-tools. (source code at= tached) > > Please compile them with options "-Dlinux -I. -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFF= SET_BITS=3D64 -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE" > > > > page-types can be found in the kernel source tree tools/vm/page-types.c > > > > Sorry that sounds a bit twisted.. I do have a patch to directly dump > > page cache status of a user specified file, however it's not > > upstreamed yet. > > Hi Fengguang, > > Thanks for you detail steps, I think metin can have a try. > > flags page-count MB symbolic-flags long-symbolic-flags > 0x0000000000000000 607699 2373 > ___________________________________ > 0x0000000100000000 343227 1340 > _______________________r___________ reserved > > But I have some questions of the print of page-type: > > Is 2373MB here mean total memory in used include page cache? I don't > think so. > Which kind of pages will be marked reserved? > Which line of long-symbolic-flags is for page cache? > > Regards, > Jaegeuk > > > > > Thanks, > > Fengguang > > > >>> On Tue 20-11-12 09:42:42, metin d wrote: > >>>> I have two PostgreSQL databases named data-1 and data-2 that sit on = the > >>>> same machine. Both databases keep 40 GB of data, and the total memor= y > >>>> available on the machine is 68GB. > >>>> > >>>> I started data-1 and data-2, and ran several queries to go over all = their > >>>> data. Then, I shut down data-1 and kept issuing queries against data= -2. > >>>> For some reason, the OS still holds on to large parts of data-1's pa= ges > >>>> in its page cache, and reserves about 35 GB of RAM to data-2's files= . As > >>>> a result, my queries on data-2 keep hitting disk. > >>>> > >>>> I'm checking page cache usage with fincore. When I run a table scan = query > >>>> against data-2, I see that data-2's pages get evicted and put back i= nto > >>>> the cache in a round-robin manner. Nothing happens to data-1's pages= , > >>>> although they haven't been touched for days. > >>>> > >>>> Does anybody know why data-1's pages aren't evicted from the page ca= che? > >>>> I'm open to all kind of suggestions you think it might relate to pro= blem. > >>> Curious. Added linux-mm list to CC to catch more attention. If you= run > >>> echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches > >>> does it evict data-1 pages from memory? > >>> > >>>> This is an EC2 m2.4xlarge instance on Amazon with 68 GB of RAM and n= o > >>>> swap space. The kernel version is: > >>>> > >>>> $ uname -r > >>>> 3.2.28-45.62.amzn1.x86_64 > >>>> Edit: > >>>> > >>>> and it seems that I use one NUMA instance, if you think that it can= a problem. > >>>> > >>>> $ numactl --hardware > >>>> available: 1 nodes (0) > >>>> node 0 cpus: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 > >>>> node 0 size: 70007 MB > >>>> node 0 free: 360 MB > >>>> node distances: > >>>> node 0 > >>>> 0: 10 > > -- Metin D=C3=B6=C5=9Fl=C3=BC -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org