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From: Anca Emanuel <anca.emanuel@gmail.com>
To: Robert Morell <rmorell@nvidia.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux@arm.linux.org.uk" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@ti.com>,
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	"linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
	"jesse.barker@linaro.org" <jesse.barker@linaro.org>,
	"daniel@ffwll.ch" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
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Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [RFC v2 1/2] dma-buf: Introduce dma buffer sharing mechanism
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:29:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJL_dMvYYWyx8xD4B75wXdKg+bD959i1LTWXD8b+yrW6HuxnTg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111220020549.GQ6559@morell.nvidia.com>

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Robert Morell <rmorell@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> One of the goals of this project is to unify the fragmented space of the
> ARM SoC memory managers so that each vendor doesn't implement their own,
> and they can all be closer to mainline.

That is a very good objective.

> I fear that restricting the use of this buffer sharing mechanism to GPL
> drivers only will prevent that goal from being achieved, if an SoC
> driver has to interact with modules that use a non-GPL license.

If nobody from nvidia have any experience with this kind of work...
Look at Intel. Why are you afraid of ?

> As a hypothetical example, consider laptops that have multiple GPUs.
> Today, these ship with onboard graphics (integrated to the CPU or
> chipset) along with a discrete GPU, where in many cases only the onboard
> graphics can actually display to the screen.  In order for anything
> rendered by the discrete GPU to be displayed, it has to be copied to
> memory available for the smaller onboard graphics to texture from or
> display directly.  Obviously, that's best done by sharing dma buffers
> rather than bouncing them through the GPU.  It's not much of a stretch
> to imagine that we'll see such systems with a Tegra CPU/GPU plus a
> discrete GPU in the future; in that case, we'd want to be able to share
> memory between the discrete GPU and the Tegra system.  In that scenario,
> if this interface is GPL-only, we'd be unable to adopt the dma_buffer
> sharing mechanism for Tegra.
>
> (This isn't too pie-in-the-sky, either; people are already combining
> Tegra with discrete GPUs:
> http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/11/world%e2%80%99s-first-arm-based-supercomputer-to-launch-in-barcelona/
> )
>
> Thanks,
> Robert

There are other problems ? Some secret agreements with Microsoft ?

I hope to see something open sourced. You can do it nVidia.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-20 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-02  8:57 [RFC v2 0/2] Introduce DMA " Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02  8:57 ` [RFC v2 1/2] dma-buf: Introduce dma " Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02 17:11   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-05  9:48     ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-05 17:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 18:55     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 19:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 20:58         ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:33             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 20:46     ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 21:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:11         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:33           ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-06 13:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-06 15:28             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-07 13:27           ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 13:40             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-08 21:44               ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2011-12-09 14:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-09 14:24                   ` Alan Cox
2011-12-10  4:01                     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-12 16:48                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-19  6:16                         ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-20 15:41                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20 16:41                             ` Rob Clark
2011-12-20 17:14                               ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-21 17:27                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-21 19:04                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-23 10:00                                   ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-23 17:10                                     ` Rob Clark
2011-12-20  9:03                   ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 15:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-01 20:53                       ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-01 23:12                         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-13 13:33                 ` Hans Verkuil
2011-12-05 22:09       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:15         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:35         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-07  6:35     ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 10:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 11:02         ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 11:34           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-09 22:50     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Robert Morell
2011-12-10 11:13       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-12 22:44         ` Robert Morell
2011-12-13 15:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20  2:05             ` Robert Morell
2011-12-20 14:29               ` Anca Emanuel [this message]
2012-01-09  6:20   ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09  8:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09  8:11       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Dave Airlie
2012-01-09 10:10       ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 10:27         ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 12:06           ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 16:02             ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 15:17         ` Rob Clark
2012-01-10  1:34           ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  2:14             ` Rob Clark
2012-01-10  6:09               ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-10  7:28                 ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  9:19                   ` InKi Dae
2012-01-11  1:08               ` InKi Dae
2011-12-02  8:57 ` [RFC v2 2/2] dma-buf: Documentation for buffer sharing framework Sumit Semwal

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