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From: Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>
To: "Robert O'Callahan" <roc@pernos.co>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,  Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,  Kyle Huey <khuey@pernos.co>
Subject: Re: Userspace notifications for observing userfaultfd faults
Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 15:24:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJHvVciAMt_PJ=V-q8_7X02cQmor3wVCTMKbpSQ9UhpnwFAa1A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOp6jLaSLC4O0ZayFz1BiO6UqC7pK_umFUb29bgXDu6U5dUQgg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 3:15 PM Robert O'Callahan <roc@pernos.co> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 6:12 AM Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com> wrote:
> > Is some combination of bpf and kprobes a possible solution? There are
> > some seemingly relevant examples here:
> > https://github.com/iovisor/bpftrace/blob/master/docs/tutorial_one_liners.md
> >
> > I haven't tried it, but it seems like attaching to handle_userfault()
> > would give similar information to perf_count_sw_page_faults, but for
> > userfaults.
>
> That would probably work in some cases, but as Kyle said that requires
> privileges and currently rr can run unprivileged (if you set
> perf_event_paranoid to 1 or less) and usually does. Also, AFAIK,
> kprobing handle_userfault would not be a stable ABI.

True, it would not be a stable ABI. That could be solved by adding a
real tracepoint, instead of just relying on a kprobe on a particular
function. But, I don't think that solves the concern around
permissions.

I am no expert on perf_count_sw_page_faults and similar, so I'll leave
it up to others to give an opinion on extending that.

>
> Rob


      reply	other threads:[~2021-05-11 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-11  0:37 Robert O'Callahan
2021-05-11 18:11 ` Axel Rasmussen
2021-05-11 18:25   ` Kyle Huey
2021-05-11 22:15   ` Robert O'Callahan
2021-05-11 22:24     ` Axel Rasmussen [this message]

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