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From: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V3 01/43] rv64ilp32_abi: uapi: Reuse lp64 ABI interface
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:34:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJF2gTRZyAAgrM1RMrTi7Zi+Vx_VBnM1=CWwZZtLy+uHZ=vZpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiVgTJpSxrQbEi28pUOmuWXrox45vV9kPhe9q5CcRxEbw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 4:41 AM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 at 05:17, <guoren@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > The rv64ilp32 abi kernel accommodates the lp64 abi userspace and
> > leverages the lp64 abi Linux interface. Hence, unify the
> > BITS_PER_LONG = 32 memory layout to match BITS_PER_LONG = 64.
>
> No.
>
> This isn't happening.
>
> You can't do crazy things in the RISC-V code and then expect the rest
> of the kernel to just go "ok, we'll do crazy things".
>
> We're not doing crazy __riscv_xlen hackery with random structures
> containing 64-bit values that the kernel then only looks at the low 32
> bits. That's wrong on *so* many levels.
>
> I'm willing to say "big-endian is dead", but I'm not willing to accept
> this kind of crazy hackery.
>
> Not today, not ever.
>
> If you want to run a ilp32 kernel on 64-bit hardware (and support
> 64-bit ABI just in a 32-bit virtual memory size), I would suggest you
>
>  (a) treat the kernel as natively 32-bit (obviously you can then tell
> the compiler to use the rv64 instructions, which I presume you're
> already doing - I didn't look)
I used CONFIG_32BIT in v1 and v2, but I've abandoned them because,
based on CONFIG_64BIT, I gain more functionality by inheriting the
lp64-abi kernel. I want the full functionality of the CONFIG_64BIT
Linux kernel, which can be equivalent, used interchangeably, and
seamlessly.

>
>  (b) look at making the compat stuff do the conversion the "wrong way".
>
> And btw, that (b) implies *not* just ignoring the high bits. If
> user-space gives 64-bit pointer, you don't just treat it as a 32-bit
> one by dropping the high bits. You add some logic to convert it to an
> invalid pointer so that user space gets -EFAULT.
Thanks for the advice. I'm looking at how to make the compat stuff.

-- 
Best Regards
 Guo Ren


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-26  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-25 12:15 [RFC PATCH V3 00/43] rv64ilp32_abi: Build CONFIG_64BIT kernel-self with ILP32 ABI guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 01/43] rv64ilp32_abi: uapi: Reuse lp64 ABI interface guoren
2025-03-25 20:30   ` Jan Engelhardt
2025-03-26  3:35     ` Guo Ren
2025-03-25 20:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-26  6:34     ` Guo Ren [this message]
2025-03-27 16:20     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 02/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Adapt Makefile and Kconfig guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 03/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Adapt ULL & UL definition guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 04/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Introduce xlen_t to adapt __riscv_xlen != BITS_PER_LONG guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 05/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: crc32: Utilize 64-bit width to improve the performance guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 06/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: csum: " guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 07/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: arch_hweight: Adapt cpopw & cpop of zbb extension guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 08/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: bitops: Adapt ctzw & clzw " guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 09/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Reuse LP64 SBI interface guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 10/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Update SATP.MODE.ASID width guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 11/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Introduce PTR_L and PTR_S guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 12/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Introduce cmpxchg_double guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 13/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Correct stackframe layout guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 14/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Adapt kernel module code guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 15/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: mm: Adapt MMU_SV39 for 2GiB address space guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 16/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Support physical addresses >= 0x80000000 guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 17/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: Adapt kasan memory layout guoren
2025-03-25 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH V3 18/43] rv64ilp32_abi: riscv: kvm: Initial support guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 19/43] rv64ilp32_abi: irqchip: irq-riscv-intc: Use xlen_t instead of ulong guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 20/43] rv64ilp32_abi: drivers/perf: Adapt xlen_t of sbiret guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 21/43] rv64ilp32_abi: asm-generic: Add custom BITS_PER_LONG definition guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 22/43] rv64ilp32_abi: bpf: Change KERN_ARENA_SZ to 256MiB guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 23/43] rv64ilp32_abi: compat: Correct compat_ulong_t cast guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 24/43] rv64ilp32_abi: compiler_types: Add "long long" into __native_word() guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 25/43] rv64ilp32_abi: exec: Adapt 64lp64 env and argv guoren
2025-03-25 17:19   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2025-03-26  9:22     ` Guo Ren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 26/43] rv64ilp32_abi: file_ref: Use 32-bit width for refcnt guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 27/43] rv64ilp32_abi: input: Adapt BITS_PER_LONG to dword guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 28/43] rv64ilp32_abi: iov_iter: Resize kvec to match iov_iter's size guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 29/43] rv64ilp32_abi: locking/atomic: Use BITS_PER_LONG for scripts guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 30/43] rv64ilp32_abi: kernel/smp: Disable CSD_LOCK_WAIT_DEBUG guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 31/43] rv64ilp32_abi: maple_tree: Use BITS_PER_LONG instead of CONFIG_64BIT guoren
2025-03-25 19:09   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-03-27 12:47     ` Guo Ren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 32/43] rv64ilp32_abi: mm: Remove _folio_nr_pages guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 33/43] rv64ilp32_abi: mm/auxvec: Adapt mm->saved_auxv[] to Elf64 guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 34/43] rv64ilp32_abi: mm: Adapt vm_flags_t struct guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 35/43] rv64ilp32_abi: net: Use BITS_PER_LONG in struct dst_entry guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 36/43] rv64ilp32_abi: printf: Use BITS_PER_LONG instead of CONFIG_64BIT guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 37/43] rv64ilp32_abi: random: Adapt fast_pool struct guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 38/43] rv64ilp32_abi: syscall: Use CONFIG_64BIT instead of BITS_PER_LONG guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 39/43] rv64ilp32_abi: sysinfo: Adapt sysinfo structure to lp64 uapi guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 40/43] rv64ilp32_abi: tracepoint-defs: Using u64 for trace_print_flags.mask guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 41/43] rv64ilp32_abi: tty: Adapt ptr_to_compat guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 42/43] rv64ilp32_abi: memfd: Use vm_flag_t guoren
2025-03-25 12:16 ` [RFC PATCH V3 43/43] riscv: Fixup address space overlay of print_mlk guoren
2025-03-25 12:26 ` [RFC PATCH V3 00/43] rv64ilp32_abi: Build CONFIG_64BIT kernel-self with ILP32 ABI Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-25 13:13   ` Guo Ren
2025-03-25 13:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-03-26  6:07     ` Guo Ren
2025-03-26  6:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-03-27 13:13         ` Guo Ren
2025-03-25 18:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-25 19:23     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-03-27 16:20       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2025-03-27 21:06 ` David Laight
2025-03-31  9:38   ` Guo Ren

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