From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Chris Li <chriscli@google.com>,
Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
Seth Jennings <sjenning@redhat.com>,
Dan Streetman <ddstreet@ieee.org>,
Vitaly Wool <vitaly.wool@konsulko.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm:zswap: fix zswap entry reclamation failure in two scenarios
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:46:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkbeN3X7e2ErYeYAAkd41p8DUsCVh7DhrwQ55+ip1eQrQA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875y1vc1n7.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 5:55 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:57 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 7:20 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris Li <chriscli@google.com> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:19 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Not bypassing the swap slot cache, just make the callbacks to
> >> >> >> invalidate the zswap entry, do memg uncharging, etc when the slot is
> >> >> >> no longer used and is entering the swap slot cache (i.e. when
> >> >> >> free_swap_slot() is called), instead of when draining the swap slot
> >> >> >> cache (i.e. when swap_range_free() is called). For all parts of MM
> >> >> >> outside of swap, the swap entry is freed when free_swap_slot() is
> >> >> >> called. We don't free it immediately because of caching, but this
> >> >> >> should be transparent to other parts of MM (e.g. zswap, memcg, etc).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That will cancel the batching effect on the swap slot free, making the
> >> >> > common case for swapping faults take longer to complete, righ?
> >> >> > If I recall correctly, the uncharge is the expensive part of the swap
> >> >> > slot free operation.
> >> >> > I just want to figure out what we are trading off against. This is not
> >> >> > one side wins all situations.
> >> >>
> >> >> Per my understanding, we don't batch memcg uncharging in
> >> >> swap_entry_free() now. Although it's possible and may improve
> >> >> performance.
> >> >
> >> > Yes. It actually causes a long tail in swapin fault latency as Chris
> >> > discovered in our prod. I am wondering if doing the memcg uncharging
> >> > outside the slots cache will actually amortize the cost instead.
> >> >
> >> > Regardless of memcg charging, which is more complicated, I think we
> >> > should at least move the call to zswap_invalidate() before the slots
> >> > cache. I would prefer that we move everything non-swapfile specific
> >> > outside the slots cache layer (zswap_invalidate(),
> >> > arch_swap_invalidate_page(), clear_shadow_from_swap_cache(),
> >> > mem_cgroup_uncharge_swap(), ..). However, if some of those are
> >> > controversial, we can move some of them for now.
> >>
> >> That makes sense for me.
> >>
> >> > When draining free swap slots from the cache, swap_range_free() is
> >> > called with nr_entries == 1 anyway, so I can't see how any batching is
> >> > going on. If anything it should help amortize the cost.
> >>
> >> In swapcache_free_entries(), the sis->lock will be held to free multiple
> >> swap slots via swap_info_get_cont() if possible. This can reduce
> >> sis->lock contention.
> >
> > Ah yes that's a good point. Since most of these callbacks don't
> > actually access sis, but use the swap entry value itself, I am
> > guessing the reason we need to hold the lock for all these callbacks
> > is to prevent swapoff and swapon reusing the same swap entry on a
> > different swap device, right?
>
> In,
>
> swapcache_free_entries()
> swap_entry_free()
> swap_range_free()
>
> Quite some sis fields will be accessed.
I wasn't referring to this code. I was what's preventing us from
moving the callbacks I mentioned outside the lock (zswap_invalidate(),
arch_swap_invalidate_page(), clear_shadow_from_swap_cache(),
mem_cgroup_uncharge_swap(), ..). I think most or all of them don't
really access sis, but perhaps they need the lock to ensure the swap
entry value does not get reused?
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-21 2:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-13 13:06 Zhongkun He
2023-11-13 15:11 ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-14 5:21 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-11-14 16:30 ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-15 12:12 ` 贺中坤
2023-11-14 17:16 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-15 12:53 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-11-15 20:12 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-16 3:33 ` 贺中坤
2023-11-16 4:09 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-16 4:23 ` 贺中坤
2023-11-16 8:31 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-16 10:34 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-11-16 20:11 ` Chris Li
2023-11-16 20:18 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-16 20:30 ` Chris Li
2023-11-16 20:45 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-17 23:30 ` Chris Li
2023-11-17 9:56 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2023-11-17 23:47 ` Chris Li
2023-11-18 1:45 ` Zhongkun He
2023-11-18 18:43 ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-19 8:29 ` Chris Li
2023-11-20 2:42 ` Zhongkun He
2023-11-19 8:23 ` Chris Li
2023-11-20 3:16 ` Zhongkun He
2023-11-20 3:18 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-20 5:31 ` Chris Li
2023-11-20 5:39 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-20 5:51 ` Chris Li
2023-11-20 18:52 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-21 0:54 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-21 1:15 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-21 1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-21 2:46 ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2023-11-21 3:32 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-21 3:37 ` Yosry Ahmed
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