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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
	 Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: page_cgroup_ino() get memcg from compound_head(page)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:43:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkbcTMo1oZAa0Pa3v_6d0n4bHCo+8vTxzXGU6UBVOhrUQw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZBG3xzGd6j+uByyN@casper.infradead.org>

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 5:19 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 12:04:10AM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 9:54 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 02:08:53PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:44 PM Andrew Morton
> > > > <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:34:52 +0000 Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a kernel with added WARN_ON_ONCE(PageTail) in page_memcg_check(), we
> > > > > > observed a warning from page_cgroup_ino() when reading
> > > > > > /proc/kpagecgroup.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is the only known situation in which page_memcg_check() is
> > > > > passed a tail page, why does page_memcg_check() have
> > > > >
> > > > >         if (PageTail(page))
> > > > >                 return NULL;
> > > > >
> > > > > ?  Can we remove this to simplify, streamline and clarify?
> > > >
> > > > I guess it's a safety check so that we don't end up trying to cast a
> > > > tail page to a folio. My opinion is to go one step further and change
> > > > page_memcg_check() to do return the memcg of the head page, i.e:
> > > >
> > > > static inline struct mem_cgroup *page_memcg_check(struct page *page)
> > > > {
> > > >     return folio_memcg_check(page_folio(page));
> > > > }
> > >
> > > If you look at my commit becacb04fdd4, I was preserving the existing
> > > behaviour of page_memcg_check() when passed a tail page.  It would
> > > previously, rightly or wrongly, read the memcg_data from the tail page
> > > and get back NULL.
> >
> > Right, I looked at that. I also looked at 1b7e4464d43a which added
> > folio_memcg() and changed page_memcg()'s behavior to use page_folio()
> > to retrieve the memcg from the head, which made me wonder why
> > different decisions were made for these 2 helpers.
> >
> > Were the users of page_memcg() already passing in head pages only?
>
> There were 18 months between those commits ... I'd learned to be
> more careful about maintaining the semantics instead of changing
> them to "what they should have been".
>
> > >
> > > I suspect that was not the intended behaviour, but I do not think this
> > > patch is the right fix; it simply papers over the problem and maybe
> > > creates a new one.  Callers of page_memcg_check() should be eliminated,
> > > precisely because of this ambiguity.  It's up to the people who understand
> > > each of the callers who need to make the decision to always convert the
> > > page that they have to a folio and ask about its memcg, or whether they
> > > want to preserve the existing behaviour of returning NULL for tail pages.
> > >
> > > So, I say NACK to this patch as it does not preserve existing behaviour,
> > > and does not advance our understanding of what we have wrought.
> >
> > I am not sure which patch you are NACKing, the original patch from
> > Hugh (adding compound_head() to page_cgroup_ino()) or the suggested
> > alternative patch which changes page_memcg_check() to use
> > page_folio().
>
> Both patches are NACKed.  page_memcg_check() needs to go away
> because it has the tail page ambiguity.  Both callers should be using
> folio_memcg_check() directly and resolving for themselves what the
> correct behaviour is when seeing a tail page.
>

I agree. I even suggested this to Michal in one of the replies.

For page_cgroup_ino() we can simply pass in
folio_memcg(page_folio(page)), which would mimic what Hugh's patch is
doing for page_cgroup_ino().

For page owner, I am not sure if we want to do something similar
(which would start printing the memcg for tail pages as well), or
explicitly excluding tail pages and THEN do
folio_memcg(page_folio(page)) to get the memcg of head pages. Waiman,
what do you think?


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-15 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-13  8:34 Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-13 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
2023-03-13 21:08   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-14 10:02     ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-14 19:45       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-14 19:46         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-15  2:34     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-03-15  2:39       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-15  3:06     ` Waiman Long
2023-03-15  3:10       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-15  3:33         ` Waiman Long
2023-03-15  3:40           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-15  4:54     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-15  7:04       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-15 12:19         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-15 21:43           ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2023-03-16  0:09             ` Waiman Long
2023-03-16  0:25               ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-16  3:07                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-16  3:16                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-22  6:52                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-14 10:00 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-15  2:37 ` Yosry Ahmed

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