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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com,
	 shakeel.butt@linux.dev, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	ying.huang@intel.com,  chrisl@kernel.org, david@redhat.com,
	kasong@tencent.com, willy@infradead.org,
	 viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, baohua@kernel.org,
	chengming.zhou@linux.dev,  v-songbaohua@oppo.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] swap: shmem: remove SWAP_MAP_SHMEM
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:06:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkaZ8gqv+iZuGG2Ce9fhVsmy+a_SbRc-kz-CJvaJsMZdig@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=P58aJo9G2Jq+b0EJP8RJBcd=_MSp-zMSB7ZG5tqr=tuw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 11:01 AM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 7:14 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 7:06 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 7:04 PM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 6:58 PM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 6:33 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I was debating between WARN-ing here, and returning -ENOMEM and
> > > > > WARN-ing at shmem's callsite.
> > > > >
> > > > > My thinking is that if we return -ENOMEM here, it will work in the
> > > > > current setup, for both shmem and other callsites. However, in the
> > > > > future, if we add another user of swap_duplicate_nr(), this time
> > > > > without guaranteeing that we won't need continuation, I think it won't
> > > > > work unless we have the fallback logic in place as well:
> > > > >
> > > > > while (!err && __swap_duplicate(entry, 1, nr) == -ENOMEM)
> > > > > err = add_swap_count_continuation(entry, GFP_ATOMIC);
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I accidentally sent out the email without completing my explanation :)
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, the point being, with the current implementation, any new user
> > > > would immediately hit a WARN and the implementer will know to check.
> > > >
> > > > Whereas if we return -ENOMEM in __swap_duplicate(), then I think we
> > > > would just hang, no? We only try to add swap count continuation to the
> > > > first entry only, which is not sufficient to fix the problem.
> > > >
> > > > I can probably whip up the fallback logic here, but it would be dead,
> > > > untestable code (as it has no users, and I cannot even conceive one to
> > > > test it). And the swap abstraction might render all of this moot
> > > > anyway.
> > >
> > > What I had in mind is not returning -ENOMEM at all, but something like
> > > -EOPNOTSUPP. The swap_duplicate_nr() will just return the error to the
> > > caller. All callers of swap_duplicate() and swap_duplicate_nr()
> > > currently check the error except shmem.
> >
> > ..and just to be extra clear, I meant WARN _and_ return -EOPNOTSUPP.
>
> Ah ok this makes a lot of sense actually.
>
> I'll return -EOPNOTSUPP here. Do you think warn within
> __swap_duplicate() makes more sense, or at shmem's callsite make more
> sense?
>
> I feel like we should warn within __swap_duplicate callsite. That way
> if we accidentally screw up for other swap_duplicaters in the future,
> the feedback will be immediate :)

I think we should warn in __swap_duplicate(). We can also propagate
the error from shmem_writepage() to the caller, but I think this may
need extra cleanup to be properly handled, didn't look too closely.

We can also warn in swap_duplicate_nr() if we ever reach the -ENOMEM
fallback code with nr > 1, and document there that the current
fallback logic does not handle this case (instead of documenting it
above the function). This will make sure we never return -ENOMEM from
__swap_duplicate() incorrectly.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-02 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-02  1:20 [PATCH v2 0/1] " Nhat Pham
2024-10-02  1:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] swap: shmem: " Nhat Pham
2024-10-02  1:33   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-02  1:58     ` Nhat Pham
2024-10-02  2:04       ` Nhat Pham
2024-10-02  2:06         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-02  2:13           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-02 18:01             ` Nhat Pham
2024-10-02 18:06               ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2024-10-02  2:11       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-11  6:35   ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-11 15:56     ` Nhat Pham
2024-10-02  1:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Nhat Pham
2024-10-02  1:25   ` Nhat Pham
2024-10-08  9:27   ` Baolin Wang
2024-10-10  8:53   ` Baolin Wang

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