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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: Kanchana P Sridhar <kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, chengming.zhou@linux.dev,
	 usamaarif642@gmail.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com,  ying.huang@intel.com, 21cnbao@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  willy@infradead.org,
	nanhai.zou@intel.com, wajdi.k.feghali@intel.com,
	 vinodh.gopal@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/7] mm: zswap: Support large folios in zswap_store().
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 16:33:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkaRrMp2APU=hzEos=oGkW6dW+M8GCzc8D=F1sboXZ_BAw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=PBaioXK2iBjzjUHVeCReqCCNG3+qyhLcb6SDixbYbaLw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 4:29 PM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 4:20 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 4:11 PM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I suggested this in a previous version, and Kanchana faced some
> > complexities implementing it:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/SJ0PR11MB56785027ED6FCF673A84CEE6C96A2@SJ0PR11MB5678.namprd11.prod.outlook.com/
>
> Sorry, I missed that conversation.
>
> >
> > Basically, if we batch get the refs after the store I think it's not
> > safe, because once an entry is published to writeback it can be
> > written back and freed, and a ref that we never acquired would be
> > dropped.
>
> Hmmm. I don't think writeback could touch any individual subpage just yet, no?
>
> Before doing any work, zswap writeback would attempt to add the
> subpage to the swap cache (via __read_swap_cache_async()). However,
> all subpage will have already been added to swap cache, and point to
> the (large) folio. So zswap_writeback_entry() should short circuit
> here (the if (!page_allocated) case).

If it's safe to take the refs after all calls to zswap_store_page()
are successful, then yeah that should be possible, for both the pool
and objcg. I didn't look closely though.

Just to clarify, you mean grab one ref first, then do the
compressions, then grab the remaining refs, right?

The other thing I would be worried about is code clarity, not sure if
it would be confusing to initialize the entries in zswap_store_page(),
then grab the refs later in zswap_store().

>
> >
> > Getting refs before the store would work, but then if the store fails
> > at an arbitrary page, we need to only drop refs on the pool for pages
> > that were not added to the tree, as the cleanup loop with
> > zswap_entry_free() at the end of zswap_store() will drop the ref for
> > those that were added to the tree.
> >
> > We agreed to (potentially) do the batching for refcounts as a followup.
>
> But yeah no biggie. Not a dealbreaker for me tbh. I thought it was a
> quick change (hence the fixlet suggestion), but if not then let's do
> it as a follow-up.

I don't feel strongly either way.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-30 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-30 22:12 [PATCH v9 0/7] mm: zswap swap-out of large folios Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-09-30 22:12 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] mm: Define obj_cgroup_get() if CONFIG_MEMCG is not defined Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-09-30 22:12 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] mm: zswap: Modify zswap_compress() to accept a page instead of a folio Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-09-30 22:16   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-09-30 22:12 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] mm: zswap: Rename zswap_pool_get() to zswap_pool_tryget() Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-09-30 22:12 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] mm: Change count_objcg_event() to count_objcg_events() for batch event updates Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-09-30 22:18   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-09-30 22:59   ` Nhat Pham
2024-10-01  0:22   ` Johannes Weiner
2024-09-30 22:12 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] mm: zswap: Modify zswap_stored_pages to be atomic_long_t Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-09-30 22:12 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] mm: zswap: Support large folios in zswap_store() Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-09-30 23:09   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-01  0:35     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-10-01  6:00       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-01 16:58         ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-10-01 17:01           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-01 17:09             ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-10-01 21:53               ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-10-01 23:38                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-01 23:44                   ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-09-30 23:11   ` Nhat Pham
2024-09-30 23:19     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-09-30 23:29       ` Nhat Pham
2024-09-30 23:33         ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2024-09-30 23:43           ` Nhat Pham
2024-10-01  0:47             ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-10-01  1:14   ` Johannes Weiner
2024-10-01  1:53     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-09-30 22:12 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] mm: swap: Count successful large folio zswap stores in hugepage zswpout stats Kanchana P Sridhar

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