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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org,
	lizefan.x@bytedance.com,  hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	cerasuolodomenico@gmail.com, sjenning@redhat.com,
	 ddstreet@ieee.org, vitaly.wool@konsulko.com, mhocko@kernel.org,
	 roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeelb@google.com,
	muchun.song@linux.dev,  hughd@google.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com,  senozhatsky@chromium.org,
	rppt@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,  kernel-team@meta.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	 david@ixit.cz, chrisl@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] zswap: memcontrol: implement zswap writeback disabling
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:26:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkaNE8G_Cd5gghaVUOf76kFxZvePv6XSZY2g4zWq2s_kfA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231207192406.3809579-1-nphamcs@gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 11:24 AM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> During our experiment with zswap, we sometimes observe swap IOs due to
> occasional zswap store failures and writebacks-to-swap. These swapping
> IOs prevent many users who cannot tolerate swapping from adopting zswap
> to save memory and improve performance where possible.
>
> This patch adds the option to disable this behavior entirely: do not
> writeback to backing swapping device when a zswap store attempt fail,
> and do not write pages in the zswap pool back to the backing swap
> device (both when the pool is full, and when the new zswap shrinker is
> called).
>
> This new behavior can be opted-in/out on a per-cgroup basis via a new
> cgroup file. By default, writebacks to swap device is enabled, which is
> the previous behavior. Initially, writeback is enabled for the root
> cgroup, and a newly created cgroup will inherit the current setting of
> its parent.
>
> Note that this is subtly different from setting memory.swap.max to 0, as
> it still allows for pages to be stored in the zswap pool (which itself
> consumes swap space in its current form).
>
> This patch should be applied on top of the zswap shrinker series:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20231130194023.4102148-1-nphamcs@gmail.com/
>
> as it also disables the zswap shrinker, a major source of zswap
> writebacks.
>
> Suggested-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> Signed-off-by: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
> Reviewed-by: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>

FTR I still prefer a more generic and future-proof interface (e.g.
memory.swap.tiers), but I am not opposed to this. It will just be
annoying to have different interfaces with overlapping functionalities
in the future if/when the need for a generic interface arises.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-07 19:24 Nhat Pham
2023-12-07 19:26 ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2023-12-07 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2023-12-08  0:42   ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-08  1:14     ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-08 19:58       ` Andrew Morton
2023-12-08 19:57     ` Andrew Morton
2023-12-08  0:19 ` Chris Li
2023-12-08  1:03   ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-08  1:12     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-08 16:34       ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-08 20:08         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-09  2:02         ` Chris Li
2023-12-09  0:09       ` Chris Li
2023-12-08 23:55     ` Chris Li
2023-12-09  3:42       ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-09 17:39         ` Chris Li
2023-12-11 22:55         ` Minchan Kim
2023-12-12  2:43           ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2023-12-12 23:57           ` Chris Li
2023-12-20 10:22             ` Kairui Song
2023-12-14 17:11           ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-14 17:23             ` Yu Zhao
2023-12-14 18:00               ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-12-14 23:22                 ` Chris Li
2023-12-15  7:42                   ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-12-15  9:40                     ` Chris Li
2023-12-15  9:50                       ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-12-15  9:18                   ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-12-14 18:03               ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-12-14 17:34             ` Christopher Li
2023-12-14 22:11               ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-14 22:54                 ` Chris Li
2023-12-15  2:19                   ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-12 21:36         ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-13  0:29           ` Chris Li
2023-12-11  9:31       ` Kairui Song
2023-12-12 23:39         ` Chris Li
2023-12-20 10:21           ` Kairui Song
2023-12-15 21:21 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-18 14:44   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-18 19:21     ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-18 21:54       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-18 21:52     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-20  5:15       ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-20  8:59         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-20 14:50           ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-21  0:24             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-21  0:50               ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [PATCH v6] zswap: memcontrol: implement zswap writeback disabling (fix) Nhat Pham
2023-12-24 17:17   ` Chris Li

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