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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com,  dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,  tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	 akpm@linux-foundation.org, nadav.amit@gmail.com,
	zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Reiji Watanabe <reijiw@google.com>,
	 Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 14:49:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkZkSB_95t2PMF1Qb4+jmCzLV7CvE6LL1YQqHwzCSsznwg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241230175550.4046587-1-riel@surriel.com>

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 9:57 AM Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: [RFC PATCH 00/10] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation
>
> Add support for broadcast TLB invalidation using AMD's INVLPGB instruction.
>
> This allows the kernel to invalidate TLB entries on remote CPUs without
> needing to send IPIs, without having to wait for remote CPUs to handle
> those interrupts, and with less interruption to what was running on
> those CPUs.
>
> Because x86 PCID space is limited, and there are some very large
> systems out there, broadcast TLB invalidation is only used for
> processes that are active on 3 or more CPUs, with the threshold
> being gradually increased the more the PCID space gets exhausted.
>
> Combined with the removal of unnecessary lru_add_drain calls
> (see https://lkml.org/lkml/2024/12/19/1388) this results in a
> nice performance boost for the will-it-scale tlb_flush2_threads
> test on an AMD Milan system with 36 cores:
>
> - vanilla kernel:           527k loops/second
> - lru_add_drain removal:    731k loops/second
> - only INVLPGB:             527k loops/second
> - lru_add_drain + INVLPGB: 1157k loops/second
>
> Profiling with only the INVLPGB changes showed while
> TLB invalidation went down from 40% of the total CPU
> time to only around 4% of CPU time, the contention
> simply moved to the LRU lock.

We briefly looked at using INVLPGB/TLBSYNC as part of the ASI work to
optimize away the async freeing logic which sends TLB flush IPIs.

I have a high-level question about INVLPGB/TLBSYNC that I could not
immediately find the answer to in the AMD manual. Sorry if I missed
the answer or if I missed something obvious.

Do we know what the underlying mechanism for delivering the TLB
flushes is? If a CPU has interrupts disabled, does it still receive
the broadcast TLB flush request and handle it?

My main concern is that TLBSYNC is a single instruction that seems
like it will wait for an arbitrary amount of time, and IIUC interrupts
(and NMIs) will not be delivered to the running CPU until after the
instruction completes execution (only at an instruction boundary).

Are there any guarantees about other CPUs handling the broadcast TLB
flush in a timely manner, or an explanation of how CPUs handle the
incoming requests in general?

>
> Fixing both at the same time about doubles the
> number of iterations per second from this case.
>
> v3:
>  - Remove paravirt tlb_remove_table call (thank you Qi Zheng)
>  - More suggested cleanups and changelog fixes by Peter and Nadav
> v2:
>  - Apply suggestions by Peter and Borislav (thank you!)
>  - Fix bug in arch_tlbbatch_flush, where we need to do both
>    the TLBSYNC, and flush the CPUs that are in the cpumask.
>  - Some updates to comments and changelogs based on questions.
>
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-06 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-30 17:53 Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 01/12] x86/mm: make MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE unconditional Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 18:41   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-31 16:11     ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-31 16:19       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-31 16:30         ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 11:52           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 19:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-03 12:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-04 16:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-06 15:54             ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 15:47           ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 02/12] x86/mm: remove pv_ops.mmu.tlb_remove_table call Rik van Riel
2024-12-31  3:18   ` Qi Zheng
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 03/12] x86/mm: add X86_FEATURE_INVLPGB definition Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 18:27     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 21:07       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86/mm: get INVLPGB count max from CPUID Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:15   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-10 18:44   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:27     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 20:31       ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:34       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 05/12] x86/mm: add INVLPGB support code Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:42   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-06 16:50     ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 17:32       ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 18:14       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-14 19:50     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 12:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 06/12] x86/mm: use INVLPGB for kernel TLB flushes Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 12:39   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-06 17:21   ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-09 20:16     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-09 21:18       ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10  5:31         ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10  6:07         ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-10 15:14           ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10 16:08             ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 16:29               ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10 16:36                 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 18:53   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:29     ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 07/12] x86/tlb: use INVLPGB in flush_tlb_all Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 17:29   ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 17:35     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 17:54       ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 08/12] x86/mm: use broadcast TLB flushing for page reclaim TLB flushing Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 19:24   ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-01  4:42     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-01 15:20       ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-01 16:15         ` Karim Manaouil
2025-01-01 16:23           ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-02  0:06             ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-03 17:36   ` Jann Horn
2025-01-04  2:55     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 13:04       ` Jann Horn
2025-01-06 14:26         ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 14:52   ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-06 16:03     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 18:40   ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-12  2:36     ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 10/12] x86,tlb: do targeted broadcast flushing from tlbbatch code Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 11/12] x86/mm: enable AMD translation cache extensions Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 18:25   ` Nadav Amit
2024-12-30 18:27     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 17:49   ` Jann Horn
2025-01-04  3:08     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 13:10       ` Jann Horn
2025-01-06 18:29         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-10 19:34   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 19:45     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 19:58       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-10 20:43         ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 12/12] x86/mm: only invalidate final translations with INVLPGB Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 18:40   ` Jann Horn
2025-01-12  2:39     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Dave Hansen
2025-01-12  2:46   ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 22:49 ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2025-01-07  3:25   ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-08  1:36     ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-09  2:25       ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09  2:47       ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09 21:32         ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-09 23:00           ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09 23:26             ` Yosry Ahmed

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