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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, lizefan.x@bytedance.com,
	 cgroups@vger.kernel.org, longman@redhat.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	 kernel-team@cloudflare.com,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	mhocko@kernel.org, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] cgroup/rstat: global cgroup_rstat_lock changes
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 19:13:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkZhjYZQqsnTvUnv9EB1KUNyKijxLbYLOMsEcsRcZw=j3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zh7vuBRbA9rT5OCO@slm.duckdns.org>

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 2:38 PM Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 07:51:19PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > This patchset is focused on the global cgroup_rstat_lock.
> >
> >  Patch-1: Adds tracepoints to improve measuring lock behavior.
> >  Patch-2: Converts the global lock into a mutex.
> >  Patch-3: Limits userspace triggered pressure on the lock.
>
> Imma wait for people's inputs on patch 2 and 3. ISTR switching the lock to
> mutex made some tail latencies really bad for some workloads at google?
> Yosry, was that you?

I spent some time going through the history of my previous patchsets
to find context.

There were two separate instances where concerns were raised about
using a mutex.

(a) Converting the global rstat spinlock to a mutex:

Shakeel had concerns about priority inversion with a global sleepable
lock. So I never actually tested replacing the spinlock with a mutex
based on Shakeel's concerns as priority inversions would be difficult
to reproduce with synthetic tests.

Generally speaking, other than priority inversions, I was depending on
Wei's synthetic test to measure performance for userspace reads, and a
script I wrote with parallel reclaimers to measure performance for
in-kernel flushers.

(b) Adding a mutex on top of the global rstat spinlock for userspace
reads (to limit contention from userspace on the in-kernel lock):

Wei reported that this significantly affects userspace read latency
[2]. I then proceeded to add per-memcg thresholds for flushing, which
resulted in the regressions from that mutex going away. However, at
that point the mutex didn't really provide much value, so I removed it
[3].

[1]https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALvZod441xBoXzhqLWTZ+xnqDOFkHmvrzspr9NAr+nybqXgS-A@mail.gmail.com/
[2]https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAAPL-u9D2b=iF5Lf_cRnKxUfkiEe0AMDTu6yhrUAzX0b6a6rDg@mail.gmail.com/
[3]https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAJD7tkZgP3m-VVPn+fF_YuvXeQYK=tZZjJHj=dzD=CcSSpp2qg@mail.gmail.com/


      reply	other threads:[~2024-04-18  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-16 17:51 Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-16 17:51 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] cgroup/rstat: add cgroup_rstat_lock helpers and tracepoints Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-16 21:36   ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-18  8:00     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-23 16:53   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-29 11:36     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-29 17:48       ` Simon Horman
2024-04-16 17:51 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] cgroup/rstat: convert cgroup_rstat_lock back to mutex Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-18  2:19   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18  9:02     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-18 14:49       ` Shakeel Butt
2024-04-18 20:39         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-19 13:15           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-19 16:11             ` Shakeel Butt
2024-04-19 19:21               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18 20:38       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-16 17:51 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup/rstat: introduce ratelimited rstat flushing Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-18  2:21   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18 11:00     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-18 15:49       ` Shakeel Butt
2024-04-18 21:00       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18 21:15         ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-18 21:22           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18 21:32             ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-19 10:16         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-19 19:25           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-16 21:38 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] cgroup/rstat: global cgroup_rstat_lock changes Tejun Heo
2024-04-18  2:13   ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]

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