From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: 贺中坤 <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, nphamcs@gmail.com,
sjenning@redhat.com, ddstreet@ieee.org,
vitaly.wool@konsulko.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH] mm:zswap: fix zswap entry reclamation failure in two scenarios
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 20:09:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkZHwg_u7UhzugVmmH6-FNORb+D+5SyMX6cGefp93uZr_Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACSyD1Nav7+zppx3BZS8vU5uF3AaBin0XOKCdtdQ1d6sA4wu9w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 7:33 PM 贺中坤 <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 4:13 AM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think we may need to try to lock the folio. Otherwise we may race
> > with reclaim reading the dirty bit before we set it.
> >
> > Taking a step back, this seems like we are going behind exclusive
> > loads. We "should" keep the page in zswap as exclusive loads are
> > disabled and the page is not yet invalidated from zswap (the swap
> > entry is still in use). What you are trying to do here is sneakily
> > drop the page from zswap as if we wrote it back, but we didn't.
>
> If we want to reclaim the cached zswap_entry, Writing back might
> be the easy way.
>
> > We just know that it was already loaded from zswap. We are essentially
> > making the previous load exclusive retroactively.
> >
> > Is there a reason why exclusive loads cannot be enabled to achieve the
> > same result in the (arguably) correct way?
> >
>
> zswap_exclusive_loads is not enabled by default, so the shrink_worker
> may fail if there are many cached zswap_entries on the zswap_pool->lru.
It can be enabled at runtime, or enabled by default by using
CONFIG_ZSWAP_EXCLUSIVE_LOADS_DEFAULT_ON.
>
>
> Is it possible to make zswap_exclusive_loads the only way in zswap_load?
> It only makes sense when the page is read and no longer dirty.
> If the page is read frequently, it should stay in cache rather than zswap.
> The benefit of doing this is very small, two copies of the same page
> in memory.
The reason I added it behind runtime and config knobs is to preserve
the existing behavior in case someone depends on it. At Google, we
have been using exclusive loads for a long time. If other users of
zswap agree to make this the default behavior or make it the only way
to do zswap loads I don't have a problem with it.
>
>
> Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-16 4:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-13 13:06 Zhongkun He
2023-11-13 15:11 ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-14 5:21 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-11-14 16:30 ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-15 12:12 ` 贺中坤
2023-11-14 17:16 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-15 12:53 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-11-15 20:12 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-16 3:33 ` 贺中坤
2023-11-16 4:09 ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2023-11-16 4:23 ` 贺中坤
2023-11-16 8:31 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-16 10:34 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-11-16 20:11 ` Chris Li
2023-11-16 20:18 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-16 20:30 ` Chris Li
2023-11-16 20:45 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-17 23:30 ` Chris Li
2023-11-17 9:56 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2023-11-17 23:47 ` Chris Li
2023-11-18 1:45 ` Zhongkun He
2023-11-18 18:43 ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-19 8:29 ` Chris Li
2023-11-20 2:42 ` Zhongkun He
2023-11-19 8:23 ` Chris Li
2023-11-20 3:16 ` Zhongkun He
2023-11-20 3:18 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-20 5:31 ` Chris Li
2023-11-20 5:39 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-20 5:51 ` Chris Li
2023-11-20 18:52 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-21 0:54 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-21 1:15 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-21 1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-21 2:46 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-21 3:32 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-21 3:37 ` Yosry Ahmed
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