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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	 cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: memcg: provide accurate stats for userspace reads
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 17:50:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkYgCySTX28zK9GZiWwsabR4nv7M2hQ57y12si-fqtv7zg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNrLO5PAEZw4yjI9@slm.duckdns.org>

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 5:48 PM Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 05:39:15PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > I believe dropping unified flushing, if possible of course, may fix
> > both problems.
>
> Yeah, flushing the whole tree for every stat read will push up the big O
> complexity of the operation. It shouldn't be too bad because only what's
> updated since the last read will need flushing but if you have a really big
> machine with a lot of constantly active cgroups, you're still gonna feel it.
> So, yeah, drop that and switch the global lock to mutex and we should all be
> good?

I hope so, but I am not sure.

The unified flushing was added initially to mitigate a thundering herd
problem from concurrent in-kernel flushers (e.g. concurrent reclaims),
but back then flushing was atomic so we had to keep the spinlock held
for a long time. I think it should be better now, but I am hoping
Shakeel will chime in since he added the unified flushing originally.

We also need to agree on what to do about stats_flushing_threshold and
flush_next_time since they're both global now (since all flushing is
global).

>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> tejun


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-15  0:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09  4:58 Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-09  8:51 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-09 12:31   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-09 12:58     ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-09 13:13       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-09 13:31         ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-09 18:33           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-11 12:21             ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-11 19:02               ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-11 19:25                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-11 20:39                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-12  2:08                     ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-12  2:11                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-12  2:29                         ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-12  2:35                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-12  2:48                             ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-12  8:35                               ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-12 11:04                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15  0:14                                   ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-15  0:28                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15  0:35                                       ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-15  0:39                                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15  0:47                                           ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-15  0:50                                             ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2023-08-16  0:23                                               ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-16  0:29                                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-16  1:14                                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-16  2:19                                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-16 17:11                                                       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-16 19:08                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-16 22:35                                                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-18 21:40                                                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-21 20:58                                                               ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15 15:44                                         ` Waiman Long
2023-08-09 13:17       ` Yosry Ahmed

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