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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mhocko@kernel.org,  rientjes@google.com,
	yosryahmed@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	 almasrymina@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	gthelen@google.com,  dseo3@uci.edu, a.manzanares@samsung.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next] mm: introduce per-node proactive reclaim interface
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 00:31:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkYe5xJjMw1KtHRyvCLeGKBgZpU1RNzb_Y=c_NujioYXnA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a2fdrnaagcgp4hllalttaxs7ckc6w5bt2j7fg4upagqhfvoc3b@jsmugftxvyyz>

On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 8:35 PM Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 04 Sep 2024, Andrew Morton wrote:\n
> >On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 18:08:05 -0700 Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 04 Sep 2024, Andrew Morton wrote:\n
> >> >On Wed,  4 Sep 2024 09:27:40 -0700 Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This adds support for allowing proactive reclaim in general on a
> >> >> NUMA system. A per-node interface extends support for beyond a
> >> >> memcg-specific interface, respecting the current semantics of
> >> >> memory.reclaim: respecting aging LRU and not supporting
> >> >> artificially triggering eviction on nodes belonging to non-bottom
> >> >> tiers.
> >> >>
> >> >> This patch allows userspace to do:
> >> >>
> >> >>      echo 512M swappiness=10 > /sys/devices/system/node/nodeX/reclaim
> >> >
> >> >One value per sysfs file is a rule.
> >>
> >> I wasn't aware of it as a rule - is this documented somewhere?
> >
> >Documentation/filesystems/sysfs.rst, line 62.  Also lots of gregkh
> >grumpygrams :)
> >
> >> I ask because I see some others are using space-separated parameters, ie:
> >>
> >> /sys/bus/usb/drivers/foo/new_id
> >>
> >> ... or colons. What would be acceptable? echo "512M:10" > ... ?
> >
> >Kinda cheating.  But the rule gets violated a lot.
>
> The only other alternative I can think of is to have a separate file
> for swappiness, which of course sucks. So I will go with the colon
> approach unless somebody shouts - I still prefer it as is in this patch,
> if we are going to violate the rule altogether...

I also prefer this patch's approach. It'd be really confusing if the
per-node and per-memcg proactive reclaim interfaces have the same
semantics but different syntax.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-05  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04 16:27 Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-04 20:18 ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-05  1:08   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-05  1:15     ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-05  3:35       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-05  7:31         ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2024-09-04 21:29 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-09-05 21:59 ` Hillf Danton
2024-09-05 23:29   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-06 11:04     ` Hillf Danton
2024-09-09  7:12       ` Michal Hocko
2024-09-09 10:51         ` Hillf Danton
2024-09-09 14:50           ` Michal Hocko
2024-09-09  7:20 ` Michal Hocko
2024-09-10 16:31   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-11  6:49     ` Michal Hocko

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