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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	tj@kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,  hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	lizefan.x@bytedance.com, longman@redhat.com,
	 kernel-team@cloudflare.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 1/2] cgroup/rstat: Avoid thundering herd problem by kswapd across NUMA nodes
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 21:52:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkYWnT8bB8UjPPWa1eFvRY3G7RbiM_8cKrj+jhHz_6N_YA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <iso3venoxgfdd6mtc6xatahxqqpev3ddl3sry72aoprpbavt5h@izhokjdp6ga6>

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 3:48 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 09:54:41AM GMT, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 19/07/2024 02.40, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > Hi Jesper,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 06:36:28PM GMT, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > >
> > > [...]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the production numbers for the time the lock is held for level 0:
> > > >
> > > > @locked_time_level[0]:
> > > > [4M, 8M)     623 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@               |
> > > > [8M, 16M)    860 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@|
> > > > [16M, 32M)   295 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@                                   |
> > > > [32M, 64M)   275 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@                                    |
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is it possible to get the above histogram for other levels as well?
> >
> > Data from other levels available in [1]:
> >  [1]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/8c123882-a5c5-409a-938b-cb5aec9b9ab5@kernel.org/
> >
> > IMHO the data shows we will get most out of skipping level-0 root-cgroup
> > flushes.
> >
>
> Thanks a lot of the data. Are all or most of these locked_time_level[0]
> from kswapds? This just motivates me to strongly push the ratelimited
> flush patch of mine (which would be orthogonal to your patch series).

Jesper and I were discussing a better ratelimiting approach, whether
it's measuring the time since the last flush, or only skipping if we
have a lot of flushes in a specific time frame (using __ratelimit()).
I believe this would be better than the current memcg ratelimiting
approach, and we can remove the latter.

WDYT?

>
> Shakeel


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-20  4:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-11 13:28 Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-11 13:29 ` [PATCH V7 2/2 RFC] cgroup/rstat: add tracepoint for ongoing flusher waits Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-16  8:42 ` [PATCH V7 1/2] cgroup/rstat: Avoid thundering herd problem by kswapd across NUMA nodes Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-17  0:35   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17  3:00     ` Waiman Long
2024-07-17 16:05       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 16:36     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-17 16:49       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-18  8:12         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-18 15:55           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-19  0:40       ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-19  3:11         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-19 23:01           ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-19  7:54         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-19 22:47           ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-20  4:52             ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
     [not found]               ` <CAJD7tkaypFa3Nk0jh_ZYJX8YB0i7h9VY2YFXMg7GKzSS+f8H5g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-07-20 15:05                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-22 20:02               ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-22 20:12                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-22 21:32                   ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-22 22:58                     ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-23  6:24                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17  0:30 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17  7:32   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-17 16:31     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 18:17       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-17 18:43         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-19 15:07   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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