From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
tj@kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
lizefan.x@bytedance.com, longman@redhat.com,
kernel-team@cloudflare.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 1/2] cgroup/rstat: Avoid thundering herd problem by kswapd across NUMA nodes
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 21:52:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkYWnT8bB8UjPPWa1eFvRY3G7RbiM_8cKrj+jhHz_6N_YA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <iso3venoxgfdd6mtc6xatahxqqpev3ddl3sry72aoprpbavt5h@izhokjdp6ga6>
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 3:48 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 09:54:41AM GMT, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 19/07/2024 02.40, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > Hi Jesper,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 06:36:28PM GMT, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > >
> > > [...]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the production numbers for the time the lock is held for level 0:
> > > >
> > > > @locked_time_level[0]:
> > > > [4M, 8M) 623 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
> > > > [8M, 16M) 860 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@|
> > > > [16M, 32M) 295 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
> > > > [32M, 64M) 275 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is it possible to get the above histogram for other levels as well?
> >
> > Data from other levels available in [1]:
> > [1]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/8c123882-a5c5-409a-938b-cb5aec9b9ab5@kernel.org/
> >
> > IMHO the data shows we will get most out of skipping level-0 root-cgroup
> > flushes.
> >
>
> Thanks a lot of the data. Are all or most of these locked_time_level[0]
> from kswapds? This just motivates me to strongly push the ratelimited
> flush patch of mine (which would be orthogonal to your patch series).
Jesper and I were discussing a better ratelimiting approach, whether
it's measuring the time since the last flush, or only skipping if we
have a lot of flushes in a specific time frame (using __ratelimit()).
I believe this would be better than the current memcg ratelimiting
approach, and we can remove the latter.
WDYT?
>
> Shakeel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-20 4:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-11 13:28 Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-11 13:29 ` [PATCH V7 2/2 RFC] cgroup/rstat: add tracepoint for ongoing flusher waits Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-16 8:42 ` [PATCH V7 1/2] cgroup/rstat: Avoid thundering herd problem by kswapd across NUMA nodes Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-17 0:35 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 3:00 ` Waiman Long
2024-07-17 16:05 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 16:36 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-17 16:49 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-18 8:12 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-18 15:55 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-19 0:40 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-19 3:11 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-19 23:01 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-19 7:54 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-19 22:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-20 4:52 ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
[not found] ` <CAJD7tkaypFa3Nk0jh_ZYJX8YB0i7h9VY2YFXMg7GKzSS+f8H5g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-07-20 15:05 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-22 20:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-22 20:12 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-22 21:32 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-22 22:58 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-07-23 6:24 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 0:30 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 7:32 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-17 16:31 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-17 18:17 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-07-17 18:43 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-07-19 15:07 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
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