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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: memcg: provide accurate stats for userspace reads
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 19:35:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkY-ezyYebvcs=8Z_zrw2UVW8jf2WvP1G8tu2rT=2sMnAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod46Cz_=5UgiyAKM+VgKyk=KJCqDqXu91=9uHy7-2wk53g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:29 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:12 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> >
> [...]
> >
> > I am worried that writing to a stat for flushing then reading will
> > increase the staleness window which we are trying to reduce here.
> > Would it be acceptable to add a separate interface to explicitly read
> > flushed stats without having to write first? If the distinction
> > disappears in the future we can just short-circuit both interfaces.
>
> What is the acceptable staleness time window for your case? It is hard
> to imagine that a write+read will always be worse than just a read.
> Even the proposed patch can have an unintended and larger than
> expected staleness window due to some processing on
> return-to-userspace or some scheduling delay.

Maybe I am worrying too much, we can just go for writing to
memory.stat for explicit stats refresh.

Do we still want to go with the mutex approach Michal suggested for
do_flush_stats() to support either waiting for ongoing flushes
(mutex_lock) or skipping (mutex_trylock)?


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-12  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09  4:58 Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-09  8:51 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-09 12:31   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-09 12:58     ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-09 13:13       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-09 13:31         ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-09 18:33           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-11 12:21             ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-11 19:02               ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-11 19:25                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-11 20:39                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-12  2:08                     ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-12  2:11                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-12  2:29                         ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-12  2:35                           ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2023-08-12  2:48                             ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-12  8:35                               ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-12 11:04                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15  0:14                                   ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-15  0:28                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15  0:35                                       ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-15  0:39                                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15  0:47                                           ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-15  0:50                                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-16  0:23                                               ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-16  0:29                                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-16  1:14                                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-16  2:19                                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-16 17:11                                                       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-08-16 19:08                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-16 22:35                                                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-18 21:40                                                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-21 20:58                                                               ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15 15:44                                         ` Waiman Long
2023-08-09 13:17       ` Yosry Ahmed

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