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From: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
To: Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com>
Cc: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
	 Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: is hibernation usable?
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 23:43:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJCQCtTU4+5PmjOt+jO5zfkZFA2xEB7hHkRadNoQ8rzYCqnyAw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA25o9Q=36fiYHtbpcPPmGEPnORm2ZM7MfqRcsvNxsO0Sys9ng@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:45 PM Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:09 AM Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:16 AM Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think this is the right group for the memory issues.
> > >
> > > I suspect that the problem with failed allocations (ENOMEM) boils down
> > > to the unreliability of the page allocator.  In my experience, under
> > > pressure (i.e. pages must be swapped out to be reclaimed) allocations
> > > can fail even when in theory they should succeed.  (I wish I were
> > > wrong and that someone would convincingly correct me.)
> >
> > What is vm.swappiness set to on your system? A fellow Fedora
> > contributor who has consistently reproduced what you describe, has
> > discovered he has vm.swappiness=0, and even if it's set to 1, the
> > problem no longer happens. And this is not a documented consequence of
> > using a value of 0.
>
> I am using the default value of 60.
>
> A zero value should cause all file pages to be discarded before any
> anonymous pages are swapped.  I wonder if the fellow Fedora
> contributor's workload has a lot of file pages, so that discarding
> them is enough for the image allocator to succeed. In that case "sync;
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" would be a better way of achieving
> the same result.  (By the way, in my experiments I do that just before
> hibernating.)

He reports hibernation failure even if he drops caches beforehand.

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/XYWYF33RFVISVZTPYSJRRXP7TFXPV4GD/

-- 
Chris Murphy


      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-27  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-11 19:50 Chris Murphy
2020-02-11 22:23 ` Luigi Semenzato
2020-02-20  2:54   ` Chris Murphy
2020-02-20  2:56     ` Chris Murphy
     [not found]       ` <CAA25o9T2wwqoopoNRySdZoYkD+vtqRPsB1YPnag=TkOp5D9sYA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-02-20 17:38         ` Luigi Semenzato
2020-02-21  8:49           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-21  9:04             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-02-21  9:36               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-21 17:13                 ` Luigi Semenzato
2020-02-21  9:46               ` Chris Murphy
     [not found]         ` <CAJCQCtScZg1CP2WTDoOy4-urPbvP_5Hw0H-AKTwHugN9YhdxLg@mail.gmail.com>
2020-02-20 19:44           ` Luigi Semenzato
2020-02-20 21:48             ` Chris Murphy
2020-02-27  6:43             ` Chris Murphy [this message]

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