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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>
Cc: Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,  Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] percpu fix for v5.9-rc6
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:23:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjH+OH08yjp=LpexkUnGp0Ogusk3WX0G7Q+Lh7Anfr21A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200918162305.GB25599@embeddedor>

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:17 AM Gustavo A. R. Silva
<gustavoars@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> This bug could have been prevented by either adopting better
> coding practices or through the use[3] of the recent struct_size() helper.

Well, my unspoken point was that coding practices are just
theoretical. Coding practices don't help - actual *checking* of them
helps.

I realize that structures with flexible-array member are allowed to
use sizeof() in standard C, but if we want to make sure this doesn't
happen, we would need to have a stricter model than that. But a quick
google didn't find any flag to enable such a stricter mode.

I guess a sparse warning would work, but sparse already has too many
warnings and as a result most people don't care - even if they were to
run sparse in the first place.

Is there some gcc option that I didn't find to help find any questionable cases?

Because if we have a coding practice that you should use
'struct_size()', then we should also have a way to _verify_ that.

The whole - and really ONLY - point of using flexible arrays was that
it would protect against these things. And as things are now, it
simply doesn't. It's not an actual improvement over just using a
zero-sized array.

(Slightly related: copying a struct has the exact same issue. A
flexible array is no better than a zero-sized array, and generates the
same code and the same lack of any warnings, afaik).

               Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-18 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-17 20:45 Dennis Zhou
2020-09-18  1:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 16:23   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-09-18 17:23     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2020-09-18 19:34       ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-09-18 19:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 20:02           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-18 20:14             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 20:29               ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-18 20:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 21:00                   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-18 21:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 22:39                       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-19  1:28                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-19  2:53                           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-19  3:02                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-19  3:04                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-19  2:45                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-19  3:37                           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-19 15:15                         ` David Laight
2020-09-18 20:03           ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-09-18  1:10 ` pr-tracker-bot

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