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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: syzbot <syzbot+75639e6a0331cd61d3e2@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	jordy@jordyzomer.github.io,  jordy@pwning.systems,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [syzbot] WARNING: refcount bug in memfd_secret
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 09:54:22 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wj=jthBt0XOjqstiYYROGhJAM0xrsWBVQgGMk79JBaKDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00000000000064451505cf0a3aa2@google.com>

On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 9:35 AM syzbot
<syzbot+75639e6a0331cd61d3e2@syzkaller.appspotmail.com> wrote:
>
> syzbot found the following issue on:
>
> HEAD commit:    9c0c4d24ac00 Merge tag 'block-5.15-2021-10-22' of git://gi..
> git tree:       upstream
> console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=115a0328b00000
> kernel config:  https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=59f3ef2b4077575
> dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=75639e6a0331cd61d3e2
> compiler:       Debian clang version 11.0.1-2, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.35.2
> syz repro:      https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=13a035c2b00000
> C reproducer:   https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.c?x=14ae869f300000
>
> The issue was bisected to:
>
> commit 110860541f443f950c1274f217a1a3e298670a33

I think that commit is actually just buggy.

"secretmem_users" is not actually a reference count. There's no "magic
happens when it goes down to zero".

It's purely a count of the number of existing users, and incrementing
it from zero is not a probolem at all - it is in fact expected.

Sure, zero means "we can hibernate", so zero and overflow are somewhat
special, but not special enough to cause these kinds of issues.

I have reverted this commit in my tree, because honestly, the whole
"try to overflow exactly, and hibernate" threat model just isn't worth
this all.

If people really care, I can suggest

 - use "atomic_long_t" instead. Let's face it, 32-bit isn't
interesting any more, and 64-bit doesn't overflow.

 - make up some new "atomic_inc_nooverflow()" thing or whatever.

but for now this is just reverted.

             Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-24 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-23 19:35 syzbot
2021-10-24 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-10-24 20:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-25  6:37     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-10-25 17:00     ` Linus Torvalds

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